"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more." My journal

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My battle with porn addiction started in 1978 when I was 7 or 8 years old.  I grew up in a christian home and porn was not a part of it and up to that point my parents had no reason to educate me on sex.  My parents hadn't had a reason to tell me I shouldn't be looking at nude pictures, to their knowledge there were none around.  We had regular tv that picked up 3 to 5 channels depending on the weather and most days my friends and I rode bikes, rode skate boards, played army or played football, real average.  One day my friend from across the street tells me his father has magazines with people doing odd things without clothes.  I remember laughing, it just sounded ridiculous to my child's mind, I thought he was pulling my leg.  Why would people be doing things naked other than taking a bath, let alone take pictures of it?  Determined to prove to me it was true he told me to follow him into the basement of his house.  There in a closet out of the way he opened the door and to my amazement were 5 or 6 stacks of magazines 2 to 3 feet high each, and along the walls were framed center folds just as he described.  I remember feeling stunned, a kind of rush went thru my brain accompanied by a semi detached feeling.  It was a little like I was seeing myself thumb thru the pages instead of actually doing it.  I was immediately mesmerized, I couldn't explain it, but I was drawn to continue looking.  I don't know how much time passed, but I know we looked thru several mags looking for pics to show each other and from then on a few times a week we'd find time to look at more.  Finally we got careless and his mother caught us looking one day and told my mother, she was shattered.  My parents grounded me for 2 weeks and told me it was wrong for me to be looking at things like that, but it was too late the fire in my mind was burning and from then on it was as if porn would find me.  I Found mags hidden by others in the woods, found homemade pics on the ground in the grocery store parking lot, found a stash in my uncles closet, it was as if I had porn radar.

For the next 2 years things continued this way with porn popping up everywhere and then the school sent a notice home announcing upcoming sex ed.  Now I was 10, nearing the end of 5th grade, my parents were caught off guard again, but made an effort.  My dad picked up a book, at my mothers urging on his way home from work, that they planned to pre-educate me with before sex ed started.  They decided they should review the material first before showing it to me, but I guess the whole thing wigged them out and they just let me go to sex ed and be surprised, kinda.  Sadly by now, what they showed me in school wasn't surprising and to my mother's horror I aced the class.

In 1982 cable television came to our area and we joined up, basic package only, no movie channels.  The one thing we did get that was a mistake for me was that me and my sister both got our own cable hookups in our rooms.  It didn't take long and I discovered the adult channel(I won't mention its name), but even though the picture was distorted the sound wasn't and I still caught the occasional glimpse of a body part and now they were moving images.  Soon after this, puberty showed up in full swing and before long I was masturbating 2 to 3 times a day, whenever I could steal a moment without interruption.  I've always had a knack with computers and anything mechanical and the word had gotten around school it was possible to rig up your cable box to show movies.  Armed with the possibility of finally seeing the images un-obscured, I took my box apart late one night after my parents went to bed.  In less than an hour I had figured out what needed to be done and so now I had ALL the channels and no one was the wiser.  Looking back I know what I did was theft, stealing signal, but my desires were strong enough, I didn't care, I took the risk.  So from then on until I graduated highschool I watched all the porn I could find time to and masturbated so often I made myself sore on many occasions.  Around the time I turned 18 I started to realize what I was doing wasn't just wrong in the eyes of God it was having a negative effect on me as well.  Wanting to make a change I undid the modifications I had made to my cable box and gave it back to my parents as now I was contributing to the bill.  I also had accumulated a stash of magazines and I burned them in our basement fireplace and confessed to God my sins and asked for forgiveness.  For a while things improved but bit by bit without really noticing, the magazines started finding there way back to me.  Friends would want to show me pictures, one time the mailman delivered a magazine in plastic wrap to our home that only had a car visible and my mom assumed it was mine and put it on my bed, It was porn.  Soon I had another stash and the masturbation returned, followed by the guilt and conviction of my heart.  Then I burned everything again and swore off once more.  Over and over this pattern would repeat for years.  I'd tell myself all kinds of excuses why it was ok, that I was educating myself for marriage, on and on I rode this, "Sick Cycle Carousel".

In 1995, after 3 years of dating I married my wife and had actual sex for the first time, it surpassed all my fantasies and I was sure I'd discovered heaven on earth.  Prior to the wedding I once again destroyed my porno library and hoped that my commitment to my wife and the access to frequent mind blowing marital sex would quench my fire, it didn't.  I don't remember the time lapse but my porno lust returned and by 1998 I'd discovered a new place to get my fix, the World Wide Web.  The web changed the game entirely and now my only limitation was what I could think of to search for.  Once the web took hold a new cycle emerged and I was off, at fiber optic high-speed.

I've never lost a job due to porn, I'm still married and my wife knows about my struggles but instead of belittling me or threatening to leave she's working to help me, God bless her.  I've read a few books on getting away from porn and I even was involved in an online help group called, "Setting Captives Free" that I learned a lot from.  The first book I read about porn and overcoming it was called, "Every man's battle", it's a christian based book and it did offer many useful ideas on how to break free from porn's grip.  I've experienced as much as 4 months of freedom before, but I've yet to have the permanent success I desire.  I'm educated enough now on the problem to know and understand it really isn't a sex thing or a hormone deal, its a learned behavior, a habit.  In myself I've noticed I usually fall when I'm under stress, depressed or sometimes just bored.  I've had filters, but sooner or later I defeat them, which saddens me. 

Now I'm at a point where I understand how my body and mind works, the effects of the drugs released while viewing porn and how to, "Cut out my eye if it causes me to sin" and what the Bible meant by that.  I've now thrown out or given away smart phones, tablets, PC's and ipod's in an effort to block my access to porn.  I've donated, sold and deleted my expansive DVD/BluRay library and any songs that are suggestive.  I joined this group because I've reached the point where I just want out and this kind of arrangement I think works with me.  There's more that went on, but you get the gist.  It seems clear to me that the first thing to do now that access has been diminished or eradicated, is to get control of my thought life, to take every thought captive.
 

newstartbb

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Trader, I can relate to the early days of finding porn.  My dad (I'm not blaming him for my problem, but he sure did set that first impression) would staple centerfolds between the ceiling beams of his hunting cabin, even with the knowledge of my mom.  I can remember my brother and I laying on the floor of the cabin staring in amazement when our parents weren't looking on several occasions.  After that, porn didn't really resurface until the advent of the web and search engines, then I was hooked.  As you, I grew up in a Christian home, although I didn't really give my life to Christ until 1997.  This has been my biggest struggle/addiction as a Christian.  I know none of us are perfect.  It's great that you are sharing the faith aspect of this.  I have started including everyone struggling with PMO addictions in my prayers, and will keep you in thought as well.  We can overcome this!  BB
 
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Thank you to both Leon & newstartBB your encouragement and prayers are vital.  Another bit of scripture that I've learned is true and vital to victory is in Ecclesiastes 4:9-12. 
It demonstrates and explains the value of RN and its usefulness, to believers and non-believers alike.  There is strength in numbers, period.  Everyone has something that they
struggle with, for some it can be more than one thing.  Salvation is simply a gift, no one can earn it, but we can and we must labor to strengthen our defenses so we can deflect
the fiery arrows fired at us.  Make no mistake we are in a war and we must daily put on our armor, but we need never fight alone. 
Thank you brothers, your encouragement means everything.

The Value of a Friend

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Two are better than one,
Because they have a good reward for their labor.
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For if they fall, one will lift up his companion.
But woe to him who is alone when he falls,
For he has no one to help him up.
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Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm;
But how can one be warm alone?
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Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him.
And a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
 
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I had an opportunity this morning to implement, "The Strategy" of taking thoughts captive and fleeing. 
Just before I woke I started having a dream and an old girlfriend appeared in it, at first I didn't realize I was dreaming.  In the
dream she expressed her delight in finding me and in that instant I SNAPPED awake as I realized where the dream was headed. 
At first I was tempted to try and go back to sleep but I knew she would be there in my subconscious mind waiting.  Instead I
got up and started getting ready and as I moved about I noticed my mind kept wanting to go back and dissect the dream.  I began
to question and reason the possibilities of what had caused this, but in so doing I was allowing it to occupy my thoughts and that's
not good.  Realizing what was happening I recited a few verses from memory as I climbed into the shower and this helped quiet
those thoughts.  The dream thoughts tried to reemerge a few more times while showering so as I showered I began singing hymns
of praise and thanking God aloud.  The dream faded and on I went.  Here are some steps I've put in place to help myself, for example
on my iphone I had my wife remove safari and only she can update or add apps for me.  On my computer when I log on my homepage
is RN, right off I'm thinking about you guys.  I went thru my music and removed all suggestive and outright sexual songs, donated any
DVD/BluRay we had that had sex, nudity or even suggestive or off color humor to charity or trashed them outright.  I'm not trying to
toot my own horn, I just really want to be free so that ALL my sexual energy is only directed at my wife the way God intended. 
I realize not everyone on here is a christian and we wont agree on some things, I'm ok with that and I won't preach at anyone for
having a different reason for wanting to be free of porn.  I just want to lift up anyone I can and If I make friends in the process so much
the better.

Chip
 

newstartbb

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Chip, thanks for your post on my journal.  Interesting that you said "unless she has been hurt with someone with the same issues".  This just came out in texting her this morning, that she apologizes for not being expressive enough and providing affirmation (in the sense of our relationship, showing similar signs of love and affection, but somewhat spills over into our lovemaking).  She said "this" has caused her physical (I'm pretty sure she meant performance of the guy) problems in the past.  I tried to reassure her that it lies more with me than her.  We are being open about it, but I think she is trying to carry the weight of guilt that she is causing it more than me.  Which is far from true.  She's an amazing person, but humble and doesn't give herself the credit she deserves.  So it's a new twist that we need to discuss more in depth with soon.  I'm out of town for work, and she is busy trying to get taxes together before an accountant appointment tomorrow.  Thanks for your insight on that being a possible obstacle.

Lastly for now I wanted to say I am on the same page with you as far as your comment "being free, so that all of your energy is directed at her".  That's exactly my number one goal out of all of this as well.  I told her this morning that I know we both have the potential for some amazing things ahead.  Trying to make the most of the positive out of a negative.

Another positive out of all of this ...I spend more time reading, reflecting, prayer, and devotionals.  Which is what I'm going to do after I sign out of here! 

BB


 
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newstartbb said:
Chip, thanks for your post on my journal.  Interesting that you said "unless she has been hurt with someone with the same issues".  This just came out in texting her this morning, that she apologizes for not being expressive enough and providing affirmation (in the sense of our relationship, showing similar signs of love and affection, but somewhat spills over into our lovemaking).  She said "this" has caused her physical (I'm pretty sure she meant performance of the guy) problems in the past.  I tried to reassure her that it lies more with me than her.  We are being open about it, but I think she is trying to carry the weight of guilt that she is causing it more than me.  Which is far from true.  She's an amazing person, but humble and doesn't give herself the credit she deserves.  So it's a new twist that we need to discuss more in depth with soon.  I'm out of town for work, and she is busy trying to get taxes together before an accountant appointment tomorrow.  Thanks for your insight on that being a possible obstacle.

Lastly for now I wanted to say I am on the same page with you as far as your comment "being free, so that all of your energy is directed at her".  That's exactly my number one goal out of all of this as well.  I told her this morning that I know we both have the potential for some amazing things ahead.  Trying to make the most of the positive out of a negative.

Another positive out of all of this ...I spend more time reading, reflecting, prayer, and devotionals.  Which is what I'm going to do after I sign out of here! 

BB

I'm praying for you Buddy.
 
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Sorry about adding the above but I've experienced some less than encouraging people in my first week on RN so I thought I might head off any future issues with a warning.  On other peoples journals I try to be encouraging and supportive, I do use scripture, but not in a judgemental or condemning way, at least not intentionally.  Like a lot of men on here my struggle with P has been lengthy, the last 18 years have been especially difficult with the advent of the web and easy private access to whatever I could think of to search for.  In late 2003 I read a book entitled, "She said, Yes" a book about a girl who was killed in the Columbine School shooting.  Her name was Cassie Bernahl and one of the shooters gave her the choice of living if she denied Christ or to be killed on the spot if she would not.  Cassie refused to deny Christ that day and paid the ultimate price for her devotion and faith.  As I read the account of what happened to her, the pure faith she had literally starring down the barrel of a gun I was shattered.  I wept for her, for her family and for me because I knew in that moment, that I didn't have what she had.  I'd been living a life that was at best, "luke warm" and I knew according to scripture that at my final judgement God would vomit me from his mouth if I didnt correct the situation and dedicate my life, fully to Him and repent(Revelation 3:16)...  I immediately got on my face and confessed and did what I thought was repent.  From that day forward I've been trying to shake the hold that porn and lust had on me, but in all honesty its been one step forward and two steps back for the last 13 years.  I've read christian books with tips on how to overcome Lust and Porn(L&P), read scientific books and websites about addiction and the chemical realities that take place in our brains when we use L&P.  I've used several filters with limited success, but I do think they serve a purpose as a tool, just not a solution.  You see even when I was completely shut off from access to L&P my mind was ablaze with desire for it, I felt like a wild animal in a cage.  Sure I wasn't hurting anyone, but if you opened the door even for a moment I would have eaten you alive, metaphorically speaking.  You see this is what came to trouble me about myself and I couldn't understand why I was feeling the way I was.  I felt like I had two minds; one that wanted to be faithful and true to my wife and God in every way and a second mind literally burning with desire and molten lusty passions.  With all my defenses in place I'd do okay for a couple of days at best and then some stress would upset the apple cart and I'd start testing the defenses for weakness.  I'd try searches at first for obvious sexual content, then if I wasn't successful I'd change up my strategy and use less obvious terms, slang terms, medical terms, etc.  And if i couldn't find video or pics, I'd switch to reading about it, erotic stories or audio stories of fantasy.  I was on what can only be described as, "The Sick Cycle Carousel" a song by the group "Lifehouse".  For 13 years I rode this same ride, becoming more defeated the more times around I went.  Finally at the beginning of this year I tried a new filter that came with a notification report that was emailed to my wife weekly to let her know about any sights or any suspicious activity I had.  It worked about as good as the rest, within days I'd figured out how to beat it and was back to miserable and was paying $6.99 a month to be so.  You see I thought I was doing things how I was suppose to, but I obviously wasn't. 

I believe in God, I know the Bible is True, I know he sent His son Jesus to die and save me from my sins, but something was amiss.  Beginning in mid February I realized the weak link in the whole setup had to be me.  My heart and mind were so polluted from years of L&P and I was so filled with confusion I reached the bottom.  I decided I wanted to get back to the literal basics of Christianity, read the words myself, learn what the scriptures actually say instead of trusting someone else to tell me about it every week and live it out everyday.  I thought the best thing to do since I felt I was in a fight was to learn about God's armor, that He commands us to wear which was great.  Then I focused on confession and repentance.  Confession was pretty straight forward but repentance wasn't exactly how I thought.  I was confused at first when I realized what repentance wasn't.  It isn't tears and saying sorry and if its not, then what is it?  How do I get it or do it?  For years I thought like a lot of folks that it consisted of an emotional type deal, but actually its a whole lot more.  I'm still learning, but for the first time since I was 8 years old I can honestly say I'm free from L&P and best of all I'm forgiven.  I've been on RN now for a week, I no longer have any filters on my PC, phone, tablet or TV and I no longer feel like a wild animal caged.  The past 7 days have been like none I've ever experienced, I'm free, truly free and all the Praise, Honor and Glory belong to God alone, not me.  I'm not advocating not using filters, they have a place, but they can serve as a hindrance to our relationship to God, by giving us a falseness.  Sin serves a purpose in making us realize that we suck and that the flesh is weak and that apart from God we can do nothing to save ourselves.  I pray for each and everyone of you finds Christ and give yourselves fully to Him, it makes all the difference.

I'm 7 days free of Lust, Porn & Masturbation and I've never been happier or felt more in control.  I daily will continue to wear my armor and continue in my "True" repentance, it makes all the difference.  Thank you all for your support, encouragement and prayers.  I will continue to do the same for you all.

Chip
 

newstartbb

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Chip, awesome that you have found a place to share your weakness as I have.  I have quietly struggled with my addiction to fantasy and P, fearing judgement, especially in my church.  It has been strictly between myself and my God, praying often about it, and asking forgiveness for the mess I am.  Lately prayers have come more in the form of asking for help, because I keep failing and know I am weak in this area.  I know it's what keeps me from having a deeper relationship with Him.  Outside of this sin, I think I'm a great person.  A great friend, a great devoted dad, active in my church and involved with the music ministry, hard honest employee at work, doing mission work, and involved a lot with my daughter's youth group.  Not to give you warning or alarm, but I felt as you did the first week ...I felt as if I had finally been delivered from my life of P and related P.  But on the announcement from my gf that she isn't sure that she is ready for a committed relationship, the sense of loss of something amazing with her is causing the grip of fantasy to return.  I feel ashamed but trying to stay strong in faith. 
I know you do, but remember that we have a God of grace, that regardless of our past, we can be made new.  I pray heartedly for those here that struggle to do it "on their own", without His help and grace.  Let us put on our armor and fight this!  I know I will need prayers and help and strength to get me through this, and my prayers are with you also Chip.  Stay strong!
 

Gabriel1960

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Welcome to this list!  Congratulations for having the strength, fortitude and courage to take on this important first step. 

Those of us who are serious try and find someone else here to help. Believe it or not, ironically, it is in helping others that we are helped. Please keep posting, since that helps everyone else here the most.

You will see how your experience will benefit others, before long. I believe that rule #1 though, is to start out doing it for yourself, rather than simply to take the heat off things at home/work.

Gabriel
 

deegee

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God bless you guys.  The challenge may seem insurmountable at times but there is a way through/out.  You got this.  Great to have people with a similar faith perspective sharing.  Onward!!!
 
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newstartbb said:
Chip, awesome that you have found a place to share your weakness as I have.  I have quietly struggled with my addiction to fantasy and P, fearing judgement, especially in my church.  It has been strictly between myself and my God, praying often about it, and asking forgiveness for the mess I am.  Lately prayers have come more in the form of asking for help, because I keep failing and know I am weak in this area.  I know it's what keeps me from having a deeper relationship with Him.  Outside of this sin, I think I'm a great person.  A great friend, a great devoted dad, active in my church and involved with the music ministry, hard honest employee at work, doing mission work, and involved a lot with my daughter's youth group.  Not to give you warning or alarm, but I felt as you did the first week ...I felt as if I had finally been delivered from my life of P and related P.  But on the announcement from my gf that she isn't sure that she is ready for a committed relationship, the sense of loss of something amazing with her is causing the grip of fantasy to return.  I feel ashamed but trying to stay strong in faith. 
I know you do, but remember that we have a God of grace, that regardless of our past, we can be made new.  I pray heartedly for those here that struggle to do it "on their own", without His help and grace.  Let us put on our armor and fight this!  I know I will need prayers and help and strength to get me through this, and my prayers are with you also Chip.  Stay strong!

Thank you all for your continued support and prayers.

to newstartbb, I know exactly what your talking about and I've restarted myself so so many times, even before I found RN.  Like I stated above I actually started actively resisting and looking for a way out back in 2003.  I kept looking for that next plan, that next book, that newest filter and on and on.  I myself have always been pretty good with computers going back to when I was 12, but Satan is a pervert-er, not just in the area of sex and he made use of my tech skills to break every filter I ever had.  He takes God's gifts, our talents and turns them on their heads.  If your naturally funny he gets you to tell dirty jokes.  A writer may start writing sensual or erotic stories instead of encouraging with words, fell for that one myself.  As Christians its a different formula for us to deal with PMO, on here I see a lot of guys breaking down every tiny aspect of behavior, dissecting what you and I refer to as sin into separate issues.  For instance some even differentiate between PMO and just PM hold the O.  Some even just view P and hold the M and the O.  From a worldly secular scientific perspective I suppose eliminating 2 aspects of the behavior is a move in the right direction, but from the Christian perspective its an all or nothing deal, if you imagine doing it in your mind its the same as doing it.  I'm not discounting addiction or the science displayed on YBOP, I know first hand its real, but I think it strengthens what scripture teaches instead of being at odds with it.  The whole reason scripture warns us against doing certain things is so we don't get into the predicament we find ourselves in now.  As Christians its imperative that we be 100% honest with ourselves and God if we are to ever be free.  The Bible teaches we are to give glory to God in everything we do but before that can happen we must reach the point of total surrender, to admit we cannot do anything ourselves apart from Him.  We must confess the truth, not just that we have lusted, but that we have a heart that wants to lust to begin with.  For me once I stopped just confessing only what I'd done and admitted to myself and God that I also actually "wanted" to PMO, that's when things started to change dramatically.  The truth is we all suck, we have an inner desire to sin, we want it, in all kinds of ways and until we can reach the place where we no longer see ourselves as victims, but as willing accomplices in our sin we wont have lasting freedom and the peace that passes all understanding.  We may do some good things in our lives, but according to scripture its nothing but a pile of dirty rags...  Sorry I ran on, I'm just excited about where God is taking me.  I can say without hesitation I've never had the peace and inner quiet in my mind as I do now.  In my earlier attempts I kinda felt like I was walking around biting on a leather strap, trying to grit my way thru the problem, just one more day...  Just one more hour...  Just a few more minutes...  Then the little thoughts creep in telling me I've earned it, I deserve a little release, whats one more time...  I don't have those thoughts anymore, its quiet now, Hallelujah!  Praise be to God, because I wasn't ever gonna really get free myself. 

Chip
 
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I was doing a bible study this morning and listened to a sermon I thought was pertinent to our battle.  It touches on how to gain control of our thoughts.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/love-worth-finding/listen/how-to-control-your-thought-life-511720.html
 

Gabriel1960

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I grew up in a household where we would celebrate weight loss by having an ice cream sundae.  No joke.

Why not celebrate one month of freedom from PMO by engaging in PMO?  That's my sick mind for you.  I've actually been on hard mode this past week because my spouse has been in Florida this week visiting relatives.  It goes back to the old Airplane! movie joke: "I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!"

I'll be OK today.  One day, one hour, sometimes one minute at a time. 

Gabriel
 
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Gabriel1960 said:
I grew up in a household where we would celebrate weight loss by having an ice cream sundae.  No joke.

Why not celebrate one month of freedom from PMO by engaging in PMO?  That's my sick mind for you.  I've actually been on hard mode this past week because my spouse has been in Florida this week visiting relatives.  It goes back to the old Airplane! movie joke: "I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!"

I'll be OK today.  One day, one hour, sometimes one minute at a time. 

Gabriel
I know what you mean, Gabriel.  Been there, done that.  In our heads we sometimes rationalize things to try and make it ok, but once we've crossed the line we instantly know it wasn't ok, it wasn't worth it.  My wife's been outta town this week too, she's a nurse and the department she works in requires her to be no more than 30 minutes away when she's on call and our house is about 50 minutes.  So she stays at the hospital for call, this time she left friday morning about 5:30am and she wont be back till 6:00pm Monday night.  Not a whole week, but her absence is noticeable.  Alone time is the most dangerous time, either actually being alone or even just being the only one awake.  Nighttime use to be one of my worst, I'd get insomnia sometimes and it just made sense, I thought, to PMO to help make me sleepy.  I think we've spent so much time using PMO as a salve for whatever ails us that it has become reflex, a learned behavior, to just default to it when ever we feel bored, stressed, upset, lonely or just unable to find anything to do.  It felt like I had 2 different minds, the one half wanted to be clean, sober and true to my wife and God.  The other half wanted PMO and he seemed to always be the loudest when he was hungry. 

I think for us to succeed we must have a plan in place to deal with those difficult times that routinely come our way.  What is it they say, "Those who fail to plan, plan to fail".  This time around I've adopted some rules and new habits that have proven beneficial.  First I made my homepage RN, I come here first everyday and post at least twice and read a few success stories before I proceed anywhere online or check email.  I work from home as a "day trader" so I'm on the web all day.  During the day if any thoughts start to come around and I begin to feel urges start, I do one of two things:  I either go back to RN for a while or I shut down the computer and leave the room all together.  I'll do yard work, get the mail, play with my dog, whatever to clear my head.  Since I'm a christian I try to practice repentance, thank God for whatever, pray for friends and family.  At night before I go to bed I read my bible and in the morning before work I listen to at least one sermon.  I know not all of this is for everyone and I respect your right to choose your own path, I just thought I'd share whats been working for me.  Another thing that has helped is not allowing myself any fantasy, even for my wife unless she is home. 

One of the things that use to lead to a bout of PMO was allowing myself to sexually evaluate every woman I came in contact with, either IRL or on TV, you know head to toe how she stacks up on my, "doable goodies list".  It ends up being a vicious cycle, the PMO trains you to see all women as possible objects of lust and then the act of checking everyone of them out leads to wanting to PMO for release.  Round and round we go unless we do something to break the cycle and regain control of our thoughts and our bodies.  Add to that the continuous high octane fuel supplied to us thru all forms of media and its no wonder once we ignite ourselves that we struggle to put out our own flames...  I think that is why its so vital, if we are to be successfully set free, that we need others to help us douse the flames once we stop, drop and roll.  Who wouldn't welcome a friend with a fire extinguisher and a blanket if we were a blaze?  Sorry I rambled, sometimes the thoughts just keep coming.
 
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Trader22

Guest
14 days sober, that second week went fast.  Met some cool people so far.  My suggestions and rules I'm following that work.

1)  "Want" a different heart, "Seek" a changed and renewed heart that doesn't crave XYZ.  I believe this is the way of, "repentance".
2)  Plan ahead, think about where you've been tripped up before and avoid these situations, these triggers.
3)  Guard your mind, an open mind is defenseless to temptation.  Instead of thinking, "I don't want to think about XYZ"
    think about positive things, think about what you want to do with your life absent, XYZ.  Thank God for his son, Jesus.
4)  I made RN my homepage and I come here first everyday before I proceed anywhere else on line.
5)  My music library has been purified of anything suggestive or outright XYZ.
6)  I study my Bible everyday, I internalize the scripture so that its truth sets the tone in my mind.
7)  I'm eating better
8.  Started working out this morning.
9)  Any thoughts or feelings I may have involving XYZ are devoted solely at and to my lovely wife.
10)  Thank God everyday that He led me here to RN and for giving me that new heart I've been longing for.

It's been tough, I actively started trying to escape XYZ back in 2003 and I've tried several plans, read many books, joined different websites and learned alot about addiction and the male mind, but every one of those attempts felt like a tug of war.  I'd pull hard away and XYZ would pull hard back, tit for tat.  At times it was as though I was biting a leather strap or a piece of wood while trying to dig something out of my body.  This time is different, I was given a new heart.  I'm not saying temptations hasn't made an appearance here and there, but Praise be to God these attempts by satan were easily swatted away and dealt with immediately, no debate, no logic, no intellectual machinations, period.  I think the need to exhaust all my human resources and just be willing to finally lay down and just surrender, not to the sin of XYZ, but to Jesus.  I have this continual flowing of thankfulness that just keeps coming up in me.  I have a deep need just to praise Him; He Is that I Am, The Great I am, The Alpha and Omega, The First and The Last, Wonderful Counselor, He Is Almighty God and I give Him all the praise, honor and glory, Amen.

Thank you
Thank you
Thank you :'( ;D 
 
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Trader22

Guest
In my rush to celebrate my second week free of XYZ(I'm not mentioning it by name anymore) I forgot to mention some other stupendous news.  I like everyone on here was expecting this big empty void, the flatline, which I've had before on other attempts.  This time quite the opposite, I've got morning wood most everyday, random boners throughout the day and my libido is right on.  My wife started a new job and the schedule during her training has been less than ideal and she's back in college also, but I can't get enough of her.  The smell of here hair and I'm primed for lift off!!  We had sex twice this weekend and to be REALLY REALLY HONEST, its the best I've ever had, bar none.  I feel like a new man, HALLELUJAH!  All I can say is she better watch her step, because there is a new sheriff in town... :eek: ;D 8)

 

Gabriel1960

Active Member
Hey Trader22

We are all missing your insightful posts.

On 4/6/97 I had 19 years free off alcohol and drugs! 

Keep at it man!  We're cheering for you!

Best

Gabriel
 
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