Psychological help for you!

Puggler

Active Member
Why are we depressed?
1)we cant have sex
2)we are confused and lost
3)doctors dont have the answer
4)we want to take meds which help but dont know which one really helps
5)we want to be cured right now(either some of us have GFs)
6)we worry about if this is permanent
7)we often doubt if we are really getting cured
8)we doubt If the PIED is real

Solutions:

1)we can have sex with ED pills. the only problem is if we recently quit porn like 1-2 months ED pills really dont work but after 1-2 months they slowly start working. I'm using pills for 6 months already and effectiveness is slowly rising. I dont think its bad to use them and im using them too. Ive come from zero erections to 80-90% erections every time i use pills now. Ive seen a post some guy recovered with it on normal mode:
continued to have sex with girlfriend and use Cialis during reboot
Suggestions:
Sildenafil - Generic pill. starts working after 1 hour and is effective for 4-6 hours(good if you know when you are going to have sex, or your gf know about youre using pills and she is ok)
Tadalafil - Generic pill. Starts working after 1 hours and is effective for 36 hours.(doesnt mean you have 36 hours of erection. it starts working if you are getting stimulations. its good if you dont know if you are going to have sex or not. its even possible to get it daily dose of 2.5 mg)
2)Being confused is the first shock of realizing we have the problem so its a good news actually. the getting healed starts with realizing the problem.
3)doctors  dont have answers because its a new drug and they dont have knowledge about it. youre wrong! doctors know the answer but we are addressing to the wrong doctors. we need either really good sexologists/urologists or best one is Neurologist. after a lot of visiting sexologists, I went to the best Neurologist in my town and he agreed everything what i told him. He told me that my brain is similar to drug addict or alcoholic. my reward center is desensitized due to dopamine and serotonin rush and he gave me meds how to overcome this. move down to see       
4)we dont know which meds to take to getting cured but I can say that there are some things we can do. my Neurologist and urologist suggested 3 supplements which directly work on brain reward sistem and modullate serotonin and dopamine levels just as receptors
Suggestions:
1. Exercising - this one is one of the biggest tool to fight this disease!Personally I believe this is the best thing you can do during the reboot. Link 1 Link 2
2. Vitamin D3 5000. Modulation of Dopamine and Serotonin levels. they use it for drug/alcoholic addicts. I use it under the name of Detrix.
3. Curcumin. Regulation of Dopamine Receptors. I use it under the name of Longimin
4. L-Carnitine (Acetul-L-Carnitine) I use it under Novocarnitine 3000. Improves brain function and the erection.
he also suggested use Trazodone(Trittico) but I dont use it because I used it before and the only effect I got was good morning erections and PE cured. my Urologist told me that you dont need Trazodone so I agreed. I also underlined the condition of abstinence of sex/orgasms for long time but Urologist denied and Neurologist told that having sex maximum of 2 times wont hurt(same as Gabe deem and Noah church says) they suggested doing it for 2 months and come back. Im on the first month yet,
5) if you want to be cured right now and dont have a gf you dont realize the struggles when you have a gf. we need to be cured right now but most of us cant go on hard mode. so be happy that you can go on hard mode. if you have gf you should go at least 1 months of hard mode and then go on ED pills.
6)This is not permanent. if it was permanent it would be a biggest boom of the world and the whole wold would be banning porn, also funding the research to cure it. there is not a single guy who didnt recover from this condition. both my Neurologist and Urologist told me that I'm still young and it will fade away anyway. (im 28) I have tons of doctors explored. even one of  my friends father is urologist and he told me such thing. If you have morning erections that means you can achieve erections and this is a good sign. the point is to cure neurotransmitters inside your brain. so dont worry it will fade away. even when  i didnt have morning woods, i tried trazodone and when i woke up after 1 week of using it, I had rock hard morning erection. that means I dont have Venous leakage, nerve damage, blood vessel damage etc ... I'm physically healthy. same goes for you. morning erections = no physical damage
7)Its the hardest part to believe that we are getting cured but defeating this Idea is only on your own Intelligence. there are also some signs. morning wood returns, your penis shrinkage, coldness and whiteness fades away.... etc.
the biggest indicator I think is ED pills. for me first 1-2 months they didnt work. now on 6th monk they give me like 80% hardness
8)PIED is real? i suggest you to remind yourself, did you have good erections before starting PMO or Excessvive masturbations? YES? here is your answer! I had successful sexs with really small amount of ed pills last year, after that i used PMO and after 2 months of using it went to total limp dick. I couldnt even  get erected with pills. now im off porn for 6 months and I see pills are getting effective again. PIED is real!

Good luck to all of us. We will heal!
 

Jeks

Well-Known Member
Even though i am not sure about all the points you are making (especially whether its alright to use ex pills), i think you hit one the most important topics of a reboot: depressions and other bad feelings while rebooting.
This addiction works in subtle ways and makes us think and feel, that it is hopeless. The Key points you have summarized are some of the most common thoughts that lead us to feel that way. The problem is not only that you are then feeling like shit and cant work on your life anymore, the other side is, that it is maybe the biggest reasons for a relapse. At least for me it was.
So working on those bad feelings, instead of white knuckling it, is exactly the right approach imo. This can be done by trying to think about it differently and being aware of these traps, which is what you are implicitely proposing here.

So thanks for yourthoughts. I will read it again and think about the points you made.
 

Puggler

Active Member
Past 3 months I've gone to complete hell. I was on the verge of loosing reality which made me realize some things. the most important key thing is only two which is massive help if a person realizes.
1)PIED is 100% reversible
2)Reversal needs time. 1-2 years maximum i think through it doesn't mean that we cant have sex. 1-2 times sex per week will not hurt I strongly believe, even if its with pills.
even think twice after abstaining from porn, how calm your mind really becomes. porn is a stimulant drug!
 

Puggler

Active Member
there are plenty of guys recovered just avoiding porn and masturbation and concentrated having sex only
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I asked this guy about his experience on reddit. he is 2 years porn clean and cured. you can read his story:

https://www.reddit.com/user/GladiatorSpirit
 

Puggler

Active Member
Special note:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/jmu1ux/700_days_of_not_masturbating/
 

Puggler

Active Member
The worst part about PIED is the overthinging and that the only cure is time. will I get healed? do I do it right  way? why no pills working?

everything will be okay. just stop watching porn. reduce masturbation and sex to maximum 2 times per week. If youre not in relationship, you are lucky to be able to reboot for 3 months free of pmo. even I'm not rebooted yet, I belive I will heal overtime!
make a leap of faith!
 

Aladdin

Member
Good luck for all of us , I'm new married but I discovered it during honey moon , very very delay in ejaculation until now and many times week erection , now I'm feeling better and feeling some development in morning erection and natural libido
 

Aladdin

Member
Im revive my morning erection , my erection get good when I do foreplay with my wife and it take long than the past months , I still healing from ejaculation delay
 
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