Sexual Exhaustion - 6 months & struggling please Help

Hi,
Please help me.
Im going to keep this short as possible.

I came across PMO when I was 15 and have been doing it until now, I?m now 21. it was normally just curiosity that made me get into it. Its something which I am ashamed of and always felt guilty about although it never used to give me any issues and I always used to feel refreshed afterwards. Never had sex, virgin. I?m about 9 stones 1 lbs in weight.

Over the years I can tell that I got addicted and I tried several times to leave the P the M and the O but I always failed. I think the longest I got to was 15 days and the urge was crazy for me to resist and because I didn't have any symptoms then I didn't really care or see what it actually was doing to me. I always thought and knew I was doing something bad but I?d always been told at school that there is nothing wrong with PMO and that its good for you.

My normal frequency would be daily, to long edging sessions to release right at the end, I would waste hours going from video to video.  Most days were once, occasionally 2 or 3 times in a day and sometimes none in a day but the last two were rare. During the first 4 years everything was fine. It?s just this last year of 2014 at which everything?s gone wrong. At this time my life was hectic, I was working hard on my business from home. University, assignments, my diet was extremely poor now that I think of it. I skipped breakfast or simply had nothing nutritional in my breakfast most days just a cup of tea if I did decide to have anything.  Im bombarded by pressure from my parents and brothers high standards.. to get a job etc etc. Now to the story:

Early 2014 I had a flight to catch and that morning I did a PMO with again no breakfast or simply rubbish foods, the pressure of getting to the airport etc. gave me what I now realise looking back - my first taste of a small anxiety/panic attack which lasted about 30 minutes. I got over it quickly and I was running back to normal with the constant lifestyle and PMO. no post pmo symptoms.
Prior to the start of June I had exams and the poor lifestyle continued. Prior to my Exam in the morning, as usual, did a PMO which resulted in me almost having to run out of the exam which now looking back at again was a result of the PMO. I don?t know how but I managed to sit through the exam and ended up getting an A+ grade surprising?
My PMO and lifestyle continued after this and I had no issues and once again was back to normal. Looking back I should have taken these as crucial signs as to my body simply getting warn out but I didn?t notice or care at the time.  At no point in time did I think or care what caused these issues and simply put it down to nerves.

At this point I had been on holiday for a month and a half. Fast-forwarding until June of 2014; 2 weeks prior to restarting University. The PMO continued without any issues or symptoms, looking back now I can see that my health started to decline as I got closer to what I call the crisis which took place in July of 2014.
I had decided to go on a fast for a few days which didn?t include PMO but on the fifth day of fast in the morning I ended up PMO?ing. Later that night I had to go to hospital for no apparent reason. I had headache, low mood, dry skin, fatigue, shaking, hot and cold flashes, abdominal discomfort, my heart beat and BP was all over the place. I was told nothing was wrong and that it was dehydration. I was put on saline and was sent home.  What I do notice looking at my blood work from that day is that my potassium was on the higher end and my sodium was quite low which made me thing about adrenal fatigue or Addison?s disease etc. but ill talk about that later. So this experience seemed to have increased my anxiety. But looking back it seemed that my body was constantly being drained of vital nutrients over time leading up to the event due to constant PMO. 

After returning from the hospital it took much longer for me to get my health back, and I didn?t PMO for about 3 weeks into uni and I was fatigued, tired and stressed, quite amazing how you don't think of PMO when your really tired and sick.  I happened to start feeling better abstaining from the PMO which at that time I again didn?t realise. After I managed to feel better and my body starting to feel better I was Back to the PMO lifestyle. After the next few PMO?s that was it, my body gave in extreme headaches, couldn?t move from my bedroom to my brothers room. Fatigue, eye floaters, brain fog, weak muscles, dry skin, nausea, abdominal discomfort you name it.
I ended up going to my doctor who checked for things like parasites, celiac disease. But didn?t find anything, he told me to come back if things didn't improve but I didn?t end up going back, this was in September last year, but more on that later.  When he told me they couldn?t find anything wrong with me over the phone a few days later the severe anxiety set in because I didn?t know what was happening to me and why I was so tired and fatigued with all these symptoms that wouldn't go away and the worry that I would be this burnt-out for the rest of my life because nothing was getting better. I think at this stage maybe I did develop an anxiety problem caused from my poor health and constant worry that I wouldn?t be able to please a women.

That night I did another PMO and the following morning another one right after probably to get away from the worry and the second time there was no sperm which came out I was dry. Literally nothing. A few hours later that day and that PMO sessions literally sent me into severe anxiety, insomnia, crying at night, anorexia (unable to eat), and decreased appetite, sex drive and libido had fully gone. The majority of those symptoms lasted about a week and a half to 2 weeks when I researched online and I came across YBOP and reditt etc. and it just made so much sense; everything seemed to click and I thought rite I?ll do the reboot and I?ll be fine. it gave me so much hope.  It was 5 years of non-stop PMO, porn addiction, masturbation addiction all adding up. I used to PMO to any emotional feeling I felt sad, happy, excited, to waste time from boredom, tiredness etc.

I decided to reboot. I decided to lower all stressors and since I was now back on holiday there was no university. I started having good breakfast, eggs, seeds, dates etc left all sugary processed foods, just improved my lifestyle on a whole and started sleeping earlier. Over the first reboot it made a huge difference. Remember during my first reboot I didn't create an account on RN or YBOP. But I read so many stories which gave me courage and strength whilst helping me keep going. 

I ended up doing roughly 110 days free from PMO cold turkey on my first go. This did however include fantasizing and watching youtube clips, butts, boobs etc and edging towards the end which ill talk about later on. The first 2 weeks of it I experience massive withdrawal symptoms, all the ones you can think of anxiety, insomnia etc etc. It was soooo horrible. I was in a massive flatline, no penis response, no morning erections. 

The symptoms gradually decreased and improved up until day 43 which I noticed a major change and I slowly started seeing morning erections and sensitivity in the penis. Depression had gone after about the 3rd week into it but the Severe Anxiety remained. Everything seemed to be getting better and I was feeling better and better as the days went by.
At about days 50 or so the anxiety lifted off and I was back to my normal self with only very minor symptoms such as lethargy, small headaches, tiredness etc.
Day 75 arrived when I had my first wet dream and I felt amazing after it.  I hadn't had a wet dream in I don't know how long. Post wet dream I had No anxiety and no other symptoms, the wet dream didn't slow down the recovery at all and the reboot continued. it gave me so much courage knowing that the orgasm gave me no symptoms. everything had cleared and I experienced no post wet dream orgasm ejaculation symptoms. Every day I was having morning wood. I felt amazing. Almost back to normal. Confidence was returning, morning woods were back, voice was deeper, all positive.
I continued the reboot for another 20 or so days and I promised myself to continue the reboot and do no more PMO related activities ever again but I was na?ve and somehow ended up back to edging which I did for about 11 days without orgasm just P & M. The thought of being and feeling cured led me back to the edging, the edging was so intense and I gave in and orgasmed & ejaculated a huge amount whilst lying down edging to my phone in bed (the edging sessions were literally waking up in the morning from sleep and before going to sleep for a few hours for 11 days prior to caving in and ejaculating). The thing that triggered it was seeing news of a new pornstar on facebook and my brain was like I have to see this I have to see this. I felt fine after that orgasm as I  but did feel guilty of letting myself relapse. I didn?t have symptoms so I slept well through the night.  This first reboot did include lots of fantasies and long edging sessions towards the end so it wasn?t a pure reboot.
The following day I felt a little lethargic but I thought that?s fine none of the symptoms have returned.  I was happy, everything seemed cured I was back to normal, little did I know come 7pm when I started to have dinner, I was happily talking to a family member and then something in my brain flicked a switched and bam my anxiety returned right there and then out of nowhere. social anxiety was back as well. Anxiety and the other symptoms had been gone for over a 1 month and a bit and I was feeling so good but there it was again returned due to PMO. I had to get out of the room because I new the PMO had caused the symptoms to return. luckily I had eaten most of my food so nothing looked fishy to my family members the headaches returned and the lethargy, and low moods and the fluctuating energy levels. But this time no loss of appetite or insomnia.  This time it wasn?t however as severe as the first time, But still very bad. The only time I had insomnia was the period I mentioned earlier prior to my first reboot. And some during the withdrawal phases of the first reboot.

As a result I started another reboot from the next morning and it has now been 28 days PMO free and this time I have eliminated any form of sexual thought as well as not looking at women on the street.  The first 20 days were tough with anxiety, if there?s no anxiety then depressed mood, or fatigue, lethargy. But it?s taken much less time to start feeling a little bit better than the first reboot which I?m taking as a positive sign. The first reboot i saw major improvements after about 43 days. This time its getting a lot better after about 20 days. I hope it all goes away and I?m thinking of going as long as I can this time without any form of sexual thought or activity. I will never P, M or O ever again in my life only through natural means i.e wet dreams and real sex. I have only incorrectly ejaculated 1 time over the last 140 or so days which was through PMO and it was a major relapse that bought back a lot of my symptoms.
What I have noticed over the last 150 days or so is that a lot of my anxiety always however tends to go away after 6pm and my energy levels drastically increase after that time. During the days it?s very tough and I feel fatigued and the energy levels are low, but after 6pm it?s like I get a second wind of energy and I feel fine. I also have noticed that I crave more salt.  And I?m thirstier. In the early stages of the reboot I also noticed dryer skin. And I have dry skin patches behind my ear. Do you think this could be adrenal fatigue or insufficiency? Maybe my adrenals can no longer produce cortisol properly? or are so wasted from constant adrenaline rushes from the PMO. I do notice that prior to watching P I always had this massive adrenal rushes that i would experience even whilst  changing from video to video. I also notice that when I last PMO?d and times before that towards the latter years I used to get a rush of adrenaline similar to when you get frightened rather than a pleasure feeling when I used to look at PMO. Do you think looking at porn and over masturbation can cause these issues because it?s different from normal sex? maybe its fatiguing my adrenals every time I look and do PMO. and these symptoms wont happen from real sex.

Also like to say that my hair has gradually started to fall out from the very first incident and is very very brittle. Its receding much faster. I also have twitching muscles between the anus and scrotum area similar to when you have an eye twitch. im not sure what's that caused by but I've had that for a few years prior to all these issues starting. 

I also noticed that over the last year prior to all this started I notice I have a varicocele on my left testicle, it?s not too big but it is visible and you can feel it when the scrotum is soft and warm. I did read somewhere that a varicocele can cause the testicle to overheat which results in low testosterone and poor sperm production, thus resulting in symptoms similar to the ones I experienced. Could this be causing problems for me such as anxiety after orgasm or ejaculation? Maybe testosterone drops too low?

I have not taken any supplements and am not sure if I should as I?m not a fan of popping pills etc. My first reboot I didn't take any form of supplements except a protein shake every now and then. it was mostly a lifestyle change.

I need to fix my body because I want to get married soon and my parents will push me to get married in the next year or two. and they don't know about my issues. what worries me more is that what if I do feel better rebooting and get married and the symptoms return after I have sex with her? Im pretty much back in a flatline but I don?t have problems with erections at the moment I think. I could get one if I really fantasised or saw a naked girl. Its only when I ejaculate or orgasm that creates issues of mainly anxiety. I feel so bad that I've ruined my body and the thought of this makes me feel down.
During the first reboot ive noticed that my confidence; voice have all also improved during my first reboot. 

I haven?t had real sex so don?t know if I would have symptoms after that form of Orgasm. Same goes for masturbation without porn, haven?t tried that either. And when I do orgasm/ejaculate through masturbation it?s normally after a long edging session with death grips.
And why it is that wet dreams don?t give me any symptoms? Could it be a psychological thing that after years of shame, guilt, abuse its all manifested to cause these problems. or have I simply burnt out my central nervous system from excess PMO causing sexual exhaustion which is causing adrenal fatigue.

on a side note another pressurising and stressfull experience has just happened in my life over the past few weeks, Because of my issues a girl I used to like a lot just got married to someone else and that?s put more pressure and stress on my delicate brain. I feel so down and bad about this (although me and her were always fighting and she never was really into me but I loved her heaps) I think I used her to make myself feel better and get away from my problems similar to how I used PMO as an escape as well, this stupid PMO made me a clingy boring guy. its adding to the depressive thoughts and anxiety imagining her with another guy. I know she wasn't good for me but its just so hard to get over someone who you liked so much, someone you saw your future with and its ruining and playing with my mood over the last week :(  This has just made things worse. I'm trying to convince myself that everything's going to be okay.  I fear I can?t get a girl now because I won?t be able to satisfy her but my parents will push me to get married in about a year or maybe 2 years? time.  Another thing worrying me is that Ill now have performance anxiety when I do end up getting with a women and the fact that im not sure ill be able to get over my ex although she really wasn't my ex or even into me. I fear what itll be like having to see her around with her new husband :(

All these problems have simply added up in my life all slowly at once over the last 6 months and im struggling to cope with it all. I haven't talked to anyone about this. its all been bottled up inside and I think I just need to talk to you guys about it. My family wont understand and will get angry if they found out all my problems and how PMO has caused it. I don't have anyone to talk to about it. You guys are the first people I am telling, along with dr Richards and the folks over at YBOP. I?m struggling and the second setback after the relapse has hit my confidence hard along with the stupid bitch of a girl who left me.


Sorry for such a long story and the poor grammar im just to tired to proof read this.

I know I have asked some questions above but I have tried to summarise them below:
1. Is this sexual exhaustion where my nervous systems are so battered from all the PMO?
2. How do I regain the ability to have no symptoms a day after ejaculation which last so long? In other words how to I go back to being normal? (Im sure if I did more O?s at once the symptoms would be much more severe)
3. Should I go to the doctor again? I have resisted as he will probably prescribe me SSRI?s or something which will not solve the problem.
4. Why is there no symptoms after a wet dream but only when I PMO?
5. Should I have my bloods done to see if there are any deficiencies?
6. Could the varicocele and low testosterone be a possible cause for a crash a day after PMO?
7. Could I have adrenal fatigue, Addison?s disease adrenal insufficiency or some sort of thyroid problem? Perhaps the adrenals are being pushed to their limits and can?t work properly from so much stress caused to them over time? (thyroid problems run in my family)
8. If in the first reboot I noticed so much improvement what do you people advise?
9. Are there any similar conditions to mine?
10. Have people recovered?
11.  Does it seem I have a Porn and Masturbation Addiction which has caused brain changes over the years which are know manifesting as anxiety and other symptoms. How long will I need to reboot for to cure my self?
12. what worries me more is that what if I do feel better rebooting and get married and the symptoms return after I have sex with her? but why doesn't a wet dream give me no problems then?

Please help
From an extremely exhausted, tired and worried person - hence the name struggling1234

:( 
 

Maxime

Active Member
Hi. Your post is quite epic. You seem to have some health issues there. I'm not a pro, but I'm not sure all of this can be blamed on PMO. Since I registered here, I'd recommend anyone to stop PMO because I do feel like it's bad for you. However, for the other problems, maybe seeing a doctor would help. Don't hide anything. Tell them about your addiction.
 

jkkk

Well-Known Member
Hey struggling,

It would be good for you to start a journal.

Take your time to lay things out. You seem to be looking for answers yes/no. This is not that simple.

Reboot may help you with most of problems. It might help with them all. It might be the first few steps in a totally new life, where you will be able to face the real issues and challenges in life. Panic attacks are not uncommon in PMO. Both when acting out, as well as during the reboot.

What sources have you reached until know to learn about the addiction?
 
Maxime said:
Hi. Your post is quite epic. You seem to have some health issues there. I'm not a pro, but I'm not sure all of this can be blamed on PMO. Since I registered here, I'd recommend anyone to stop PMO because I do feel like it's bad for you. However, for the other problems, maybe seeing a doctor would help. Don't hide anything. Tell them about your addiction.

Thank you so much for reading it.

PMO in my opinion has caused all my problems, 5 years non stop of drowning my brain in high dopamine, I just think my body couldn't take anymore especially my brain. when I abstain the symptoms go away after a while (basing this on my first reboot), but as soon as I PMO they all come back the next day.

I haven't tried real sex or a quick M without P or edging. I feel like checking via gentle no Porn quick masturbation  to see if ill have any symptoms but I just don't wanna go through he'll again. I think its better if I wait as long as I can,  just give my body time to heal form the abuse and constant over stimulation to the brain.

I did end up going to the doctor in the last few days, I got my results back he says everything is fine.  But he's going to now check my cortisol levels last and if they find nothing he's going to send me to the hospital and let me see a specialist. 

I asked him about over masturbation but he bluntly told me there is no such thing and that their is no correlation between ejaculation orgasm or masturbation to health problems. I just don't believe him for some reason.  I even told him what if you over did it and by overdoing it I mean really overdoing it but he gave me the same answer. 

I didn't tell him about my suspicion of addiction though. I don't know if I should





 
jkkk said:
Hey struggling,

It would be good for you to start a journal.

Take your time to lay things out. You seem to be looking for answers yes/no. This is not that simple.

Reboot may help you with most of problems. It might help with them all. It might be the first few steps in a totally new life, where you will be able to face the real issues and challenges in life. Panic attacks are not uncommon in PMO. Both when acting out, as well as during the reboot.

What sources have you reached until know to learn about the addiction?


how do I start a journal?? I know im looking for yes/no answers but im so tired and the relapse after the first reboot hit me soooo hard in confidence. although its taking much less time for me to feel better after the relapse then what it did originally, some 80 days compared to 20 days.

in regards to the anxiety and fluctuating moods they only happen after I orgasm/ejaculate via PMO. Wet dreams don't cause me any issues.

in regards to sources regarding learning about the addiction, the only thing ive done is read heaps of stuff on YBOP and Dr Richards, Dr Lim etc. only online stuff.

ive been to the doctor twice now and the hospital  as in my story and they've found nothing.

im really thinking a burnt out brain chemical balance, sexual and central nervous system exhaustion and adrenal fatigue.

Thanks so much for reading and replying it makes me feel so much better having told someone. 
 

Mekka

Member
Hey man.

First off I think you need to take a deep, deep breath.  Good.

First off, I'm a porn/masturbation addict like you and everyone else on here, and the whole point of this forum is to reboot our brains, right?

And everyone has a different brain chemistry so it's going to vary as to how long each and everyone of us recover from our addictions.  Some take 60-90 days, and there are some stories that take up to 1 or 2 years!  But don't let that worry you.  You have to take it one day at a time, and know that you are going to get better. 

You lasted 110 days?  That's effing amazing man!  I'm so proud of you.  My longest was 40 days or something, was able to get a boner by fantazing, and relapsed.  But what is helping me this time is to think smaller.  Don't set your sights on 100 days from now, maybe set your sights on today.  I say to myself, "okay the goal is to not look at porn for a whole day."  One day, and I count it as a win for me.  So far, I've got 37 wins since I last relapsed. 

Breathing and focusing on my breath really, really helps calm the urges.  I'm not trying to put you down, because I think you have self-control and is capable of overcoming your problems, but you need to stop worrying so much.  Especially about your future wife and whether or not you're gonna please her.  First off, you need to find that girl that you want to spend your life with.  But since you don't have that right now just focus on YOU.  You are the most important thing to worry about and taking steps like NoFap is the right path in correcting ourselves.

Sorry for the long post (this is meant for you and myself I think lol), but you got to be kind to yourself, and allow yourself to accept the fact that NoFap will not cure you overnight.  Right now it is up to time to decide when you're ready to be "rebooted", as frustrating as that maybe.  Good things come to those who wait. 

 
Mekka said:
Hey man.

First off I think you need to take a deep, deep breath.  Good.

First off, I'm a porn/masturbation addict like you and everyone else on here, and the whole point of this forum is to reboot our brains, right?

And everyone has a different brain chemistry so it's going to vary as to how long each and everyone of us recover from our addictions.  Some take 60-90 days, and there are some stories that take up to 1 or 2 years!  But don't let that worry you.  You have to take it one day at a time, and know that you are going to get better. 

You lasted 110 days?  That's effing amazing man!  I'm so proud of you.  My longest was 40 days or something, was able to get a boner by fantazing, and relapsed.  But what is helping me this time is to think smaller.  Don't set your sights on 100 days from now, maybe set your sights on today.  I say to myself, "okay the goal is to not look at porn for a whole day."  One day, and I count it as a win for me.  So far, I've got 37 wins since I last relapsed. 

Breathing and focusing on my breath really, really helps calm the urges.  I'm not trying to put you down, because I think you have self-control and is capable of overcoming your problems, but you need to stop worrying so much.  Especially about your future wife and whether or not you're gonna please her.  First off, you need to find that girl that you want to spend your life with.  But since you don't have that right now just focus on YOU.  You are the most important thing to worry about and taking steps like NoFap is the right path in correcting ourselves.

Sorry for the long post (this is meant for you and myself I think lol), but you got to be kind to yourself, and allow yourself to accept the fact that NoFap will not cure you overnight.  Right now it is up to time to decide when you're ready to be "rebooted", as frustrating as that maybe.  Good things come to those who wait.

Hey man,  thanks for the reply. 

I know I have to take it one day at a time.  It's just so bad for my confidence and I hate that worry that's ill never be able to orgasm/ejaculated again without having the symptoms return. 

To be honest for me porn is actually quite easy to stay off now after my first reboot and yup I went about 110 days but the last 11 or so including heavy porn edging which eventually led to a PMO,  all the symptoms returned the next day. I think edging may be a massive problem as dopamine skyrockets for hours on end and days on end.  Normal sex only last what like 15 minutes max with a women right with heaps of for play cuddling etc.

U just have to drill it that this is very very bad for you and I don't think I'll ever go to PMO again. Today I saw a random pic on facebook of some white chick with massive boobs and my brain was simply don't worry it's a girl she's hot but u dont need to go and fap just cos u saw a hot girl. I have noticed over the last 150 days or so my outlook towards women has changed a lot.

I know I need to stop worrying but it's so hard.  There alot on my mind.

Sure mate I'm here for u in ur struggles as well.  Hopefully we can both kill all our problems.

Its weird how my first reboot it took about 75 days for me to start feeling normal and then after I relapsed with PMO it's only taken about 30 days for me to start feeling better.  So in reality I've gone about 150 days with only one PMO and about 10 days of edging.  This reboot I'm eliminating all sexual fantasy all together as much as i can

Today and yesterday I've been having huge erections as well so I don't think I have pied. 

Thank u for your help so much






 
Day 43

Felt really good today the depression and anxiety was not there.  And the brain fog and exhaustion was gone.  Felt quite energetic since I've started taking a multivitamin powder and drinking two green teas a day. 

Im having some hard erections and was a little horny today talking to some girls.  But im still worrying that if I PMO I will get a return of symptoms like i have in the past.  Obviously I'll never do P ever again.  But how long do u think i should wait before I have a orgasm/ejaculate to see if I have any issues.  Maybe I'll just keep going on the reboot until my first real encounter with a women...  Wet dream will keep the release going.  Thank God wet dreams don't give me any issues.  I think its to do with much lower levels of dopamine compared to PMO. 

Any thoughts would be helpful please.   
 
Day 44

Feeling okay today.  Not too bad had a tiny stint of anxiety when I was in class but it passed after a few seconds.

Can get erections easily now from thinking about a girl but I've stopped that in this second reboot.  Need to let my brain reboot from all the overstimulation. 

Still worrying about my future wife and if ill get symptoms after I have sex. Thinking about my ex and her new husband randomly enters my mind and it makes me a little anxious and depressed thinking about her children with him etc and them naked together. It's making me burn inside and im jealous.. I hate PMO is ruined my life.  Maybe I would have been more social more nice to my ex if I wasn't flapping all the time...  PMO  made me loose her and im really sad about it. 

 
Day 48

Im feeling better everyday now. Anxiety is pretty much gone. Depression is gone. Only thing getting me down is my thoughts of my ex and her new man.  And how I'm gonna attend there wedding and see their kids etc.  I love her so much my heart is in a billion pieces. 

If I fap I know all my symptoms will return.  So I'm gonna keep on rebooting for long this time.  I can get erections so there's no problems. 

Just trying to be a more confident person. Changing my lifestyle.  Trying to chat up more hot girls to get my confidence up.

 

HeyItsMe

Member
You should stop thinking of your ex. It does nothing good for you. Does are not productive thoughts. And your parent wants you to get married in two years? How can they be forcing you that. Do you want to get married in two years? Pls confront your parents about that.

Its all about you. Make this world a happy place for you. Dont try to please anyone but yourself. Its hard but you can do it. Seek help if you think you need it. Talk to your parents, friends, gf when you get one... visit psychiatrist if needed. I did so and it was a great experience.

I was a mess like you (and i still am in many ways). But now i am working on myself. I dont let myself downgrading. I opened up to the world. I am not hiding and drowning in self pity. I told about my troubles to my parents, my closest friends, my psychiatrist nad my gf. You need help and theres nothing wrong to ask for it.

You have no gf currently and you are already worrying about symptoms after having sex. Forget about that. Meet a girl. Try to know her and enjoy her personality. If you to decide to have sex go for it (imo). And you will then see how you feel. If it will do you bad than stop having sex. If she wont like it its her problem... Be as good of a person as posible. And if that wont be enough for your future gf than so be it.

I also found out that rebooting is not about erections and morning woods. Erection doesnt make a person happy. So try not to think about that to much. Theres no rules either. At least thats what i think. Every one is having a different response to rebooting. Dont worry to much with forums posts either. Theres to much talk about dicks and masturbation anyway. That can only stress you out. Read success stories. Use your journal as a place to write down your positive thoughts and achievements.

We (no fapers) are blessed with realization of having a problem. We know what problem is and we actively work on solving it. Theres no way of becoming a better person than that.

Work on yourself. Make your days worhtwhile. Love yourself.
 
M

mtaha2015

Guest
heyitme , is right.
its about you.
make your life happy.
stop thinking about others.
 
HeyItsMe said:
You should stop thinking of your ex. It does nothing good for you. Does are not productive thoughts. And your parent wants you to get married in two years? How can they be forcing you that. Do you want to get married in two years? Pls confront your parents about that.

Its all about you. Make this world a happy place for you. Dont try to please anyone but yourself. Its hard but you can do it. Seek help if you think you need it. Talk to your parents, friends, gf when you get one... visit psychiatrist if needed. I did so and it was a great experience.

I was a mess like you (and i still am in many ways). But now i am working on myself. I dont let myself downgrading. I opened up to the world. I am not hiding and drowning in self pity. I told about my troubles to my parents, my closest friends, my psychiatrist nad my gf. You need help and theres nothing wrong to ask for it.

You have no gf currently and you are already worrying about symptoms after having sex. Forget about that. Meet a girl. Try to know her and enjoy her personality. If you to decide to have sex go for it (imo). And you will then see how you feel. If it will do you bad than stop having sex. If she wont like it its her problem... Be as good of a person as posible. And if that wont be enough for your future gf than so be it.

I also found out that rebooting is not about erections and morning woods. Erection doesnt make a person happy. So try not to think about that to much. Theres no rules either. At least thats what i think. Every one is having a different response to rebooting. Dont worry to much with forums posts either. Theres to much talk about dicks and masturbation anyway. That can only stress you out. Read success stories. Use your journal as a place to write down your positive thoughts and achievements.

We (no fapers) are blessed with realization of having a problem. We know what problem is and we actively work on solving it. Theres no way of becoming a better person than that.

Work on yourself. Make your days worhtwhile. Love yourself.

Hi, 

I'm trying as much as i can to stop thinking about my ex.  But randomly the thought enter my mind and it hurts so much.  I'm trying to talk with other hot girls to get my mind off her.  And yeah I know I have to stop thinking of her.

My parents won't force me to get married but I wanna get married myself as well.  During thess last 150 days or so I've become soo lonely even though I have a great family.  I want someone who's gonna love mee... Someone who everytime I look at will make me happy. Its not about sex anymore.  Yeah that'll be part of it too but it's more than I wanna hold hug smell be in love.

And no way I cant tell my family about my sexual issues,  there is no way they'll understand.  They're sort of old fashion and whoever they hear of mental illness they say it's a person weak mind and weak thoughts and bla bla and that people should snap out of it etc.  So that's a big no no even though there are people in my extended family who have mental illness.

I know I have to love myself im trying as hard as possible to improve my lifestyle. 

The biggest worry for me is the thought of having anxiety and symptoms after sex like i said.  It doesn't happen from wet dreams only from long PMO sessions.  And ive never tried quick gentle masturbation to feel so don't know if thatll give me any issues.  Nor have I had sex.  I'm sure if I had sex and there were no symptoms all my worries and stress would lift of dramatically and I'd feel a million times better.  A mans sexuallity is everything.

I can get erections so there's no Ed.  I'm really thinking this is more over stimulation caused by over masturbation which is causing sexual exhaustion adrenal exhaustion and neurotransmitter exhaustion. 

I'm taking a multi vitamin and have improved diet significantly. What are ur thoughts on taking maybe 5-htp, a organic green's  superfood ,  a blend of amino acids and some ultra high quality fish oils or krill oil just for the next 3 months or so??

Thanks for ur help and reply it's very much appreciated.
 

jkkk

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struggling1234 said:
Day 44

Feeling okay today.  Not too bad had a tiny stint of anxiety when I was in class but it passed after a few seconds.

Can get erections easily now from thinking about a girl but I've stopped that in this second reboot.  Need to let my brain reboot from all the overstimulation. 

Still worrying about my future wife and if ill get symptoms after I have sex. Thinking about my ex and her new husband randomly enters my mind and it makes me a little anxious and depressed thinking about her children with him etc and them naked together. It's making me burn inside and im jealous.. I hate PMO is ruined my life.  Maybe I would have been more social more nice to my ex if I wasn't flapping all the time...  PMO  made me loose her and im really sad about it.

Every addict should make a list of losses suffered as a result of PMO. It's a list that will help you understand what you have been through and where you are headed. I made mine some time ago... it's a long one. A painful one. I lost a large chunk of my adolescence and youth. Some of these losses are irreparable.

But other's are not. Rebooting and recovering, working with the addiction. That's the way for you to NOT ADD more things to that list. Every one of us is in the same situation.

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. It will take you time to recover from it. But do not hesitate. Also I believe that putting such thing to God or your Higher Power helps dealing with occurrences that seem to be just so unfair or painful. You do not make all the calls in your life and maybe what happened was really important the way it happened. You will never know for sure. But there's plenty of good still in front of you, of us.

Keep in the reboot. Don't test yourself. Let yourself heal.

I see you started your journal :) Great! :)
 
M

mtaha2015

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porn is all about loss
it is a loss of life.

my GOD , why I became a victim of porn.
there is so much pain and suffering inside my heart due to this porn.
 
DAY 50

Feeling better everyday now. all the post orgasm/ejaculation symptoms such as severe anxiety, fatigue, headaches, brain-fog etc are slowly fading. Only worry on my mind now is whether or not ill get symptoms after my next sexual encounter.

random thoughts of my ex still enter my mind and it gives me butterfly's and makes me a little depressed but I know I have to get through this. I know ill find someone more beautiful both physically and as a person then her.... someone who'll love me more then she ever did. its just hard coping with the loss.

I feel empty and I really during these last 140 or so days am looking for love just for cuddling and spending time with a person. I really feel like just being with someone, being in love, knowing someone's there for me and loves me. someone I can fall in love with again.

but having such an uncertain worry on my mind about symptoms returning after having an orgasm/ejaculation with the person is really getting me down.

I being positive and changing my lifestyle. im trying to eat healthy, im taking a multivitamin currently but am now thinking of taking a supergreens organic supplement, as well as some 5htp, amino acid complex and maybe some fish oil to try and help my body heal...


Just another note, last 50 days on this second reboot I haven't looked at anything sexual so far, just maybe a few pictures of girls here and there that I saw by mistake on Facebook, but nothing arousal other then a few sexual dreams while im sleeping. Eliminating all sexual facets. hopefully that can allow my brain to continue rebalancing. 
 
There is no trying to eat healthy, you either do or dont. I hope you use the willpower that you have towards PMO and channel it towards fitness and diet as well. You will thank yourself if you do, trust me. Congrats on the 50 day milestone, keep up the good work man!


-NeverSurrender
 
NeverSurrender said:
There is no trying to eat healthy, you either do or dont. I hope you use the willpower that you have towards PMO and channel it towards fitness and diet as well. You will thank yourself if you do, trust me. Congrats on the 50 day milestone, keep up the good work man!


-NeverSurrender

OK I Will ear healthy :)

Yeah man I'm already trying to get heaps of excercise.  Yup 50 days I've been here before.  To be honest i think my addictions going away.  Porn starting to have absolutely no appeal.  And right now if I wanted I could get a huge election.  Its just a problem of symptoms after orgasm/ejaculation that causes my issues.  I think its too much dopamine over the years and I just need to reboot for longer.
 
Day 53

Had assignments the past few days had to disrupt my sleep cycle which made me feel extra tired the last few days.  Still thinking of my ex but it's getting less and less. Hopefully I can get over her as fast as possible.

Good to know the majority of post orgasm symptoms are now gone.  I do feel I'm maybe a little in a flailing but idk.  I can get erections easy so no issues there.

Anxiety is completely gone now and has been for the past few weeks. Only light depression fatigue and headaches are still there along with some brain fog. I'm hoping they go soon.

Struggling along.  Any replies are welcome
 
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