Author Topic: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!  (Read 854 times)

DepressedAndOut

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Okay, I had enough of seeing so many people burying their heads in the sand! Look…. there is not ONE research that studied the recovery of people from PIED – not one research. Yet people are more than happy to go around and spread around a misleading notion that recovery is possible for most people, if not all.

This is nonsense! Just utter nonsense. Your hope and lack of balls to swallow the red pill is deluding you into thinking that it is possible.

All this talk about recovering stems from few observations on message boards. YES… just a few observations of TRUE success story. SUCCESS, loosely defined, is, at an absolute MINIUM, that of someone being able to get his fucking penis erect when having sex, on a consistent basis with no side-effects after ejaculating. Who fucking cares if someone starts a fucking ‘success’ topic declaring success at not PMOig for three months! PATHETIC!

The vast majority of people are fucked, most of them seriously fucked. And yes, I’m talking about those that have managed to beat the addiction by abstaining from Porn for 2,3,4,5,6 years plus!

In fact, I even question the legitimacy of Gabe Deem’s 9 month recovery – that’s way too fast for someone that stared PMO at puberty.

Also, Noah Church…. has he even declared if he’s fully recovered yet? I’ve seen a lot of his YT clips and I don’t recall him ever saying that his erections are back to normal, that his sexuality is back to normal. Not one. And yet here he is spreading around the notion that recovery is possible. He calls himself coach church and charges for his advice – come on…. Do you not see what’s happening here?

I’ll reiterate again, all of those ‘success’ stories are filled with ‘minor success’ and not the success that we are looking for, which is: to have our 10/10 erections back (at minimum), libido back and healthy appetite for women.

Enough is enough.

We’re still understanding this PIED thing and now it’s another time for reflecting on PIED with a critical lens. Is recovery truly possible? Look at the so many people that have abstained for so long and are still struggling and look at the people that have recovered fully – do you honestly this it’s anywhere near evenly matched???

Really, maybe Gary Wilson can do a lecture clarifying him comments that he made a while back – which is that of people may not recover.

Seriously, you need to tackle this topic head on and stop burying your head in the sands and being absorbed into the comfort of others telling you that recovery is possible. No evidence of that whatsoever apart from the handful of people. 
First Realised about PIED & first reboot: January 2017
Last PMO: August 2017
(Caused shrunk penis and even softer erection! Porn temptation instantly vanished due to shock of discovery!!)

Last MO:
August 2019
At least 1 six months Hardmode and 2 three months hardmode.

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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 04:57:17 PM »
Posts like this are what this forum doesn't need.

I think the very fact that we go through flatlines is enough evidence that recovery is totally possible. The flatline is your brains last mechanism to stop itself from damaging itself anymore, at least that is how I see it. If you're able to MO or even PMO then I don't think the damage you've done to yourself is permanent. Neuroplasticity is a scientific fact now, if your brain didn't do it I don't think you could even be alive right now.

You've only been doing this for 2 years now, this guy recovered after 3 years https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php?threads/finally-over.24924/ , this guy needed more than 2 years as well https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-cold-hard-truth-2-years-rebooting-1-5-years-no-porn.11567/.

During your 6 month hardmode reboot did you not see any progress? I also believe you said you were MO'ing everyday after you did that reboot, I wouldn't recommend doing that. If you did your research on these forums you'd know that you can't keep having orgasms after a reboot, I can show you many examples on here why that is.

If you feel that rebooting is not helping you then why not get yourself checked out by a doctor? If you don't have anything wrong with you physically, then your only other option is to keep abstaining until you are back to normal. It's really that simple.

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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 07:11:21 PM »
I agree with Guts,

Also, where are the stories of all these guys going 2 years hard mode + rewiring and not recovering? I've only ever come across a very small amount.

There are hundreds of success stories, not just 'a few'. No, not all of them are 'perfect' success but the quality of life is sure better and with more time, more healing will occur. Most of the time guys write success stories out of excitement, excitement tends to occur when they have successful sex for the first time.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-1/

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-2/

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-3/


There is far more evidence in these pages of likelihood of successful recovery over what you're offering.

What is it that you're even proposing? Just accept we're all doomed forever, then what? Go back to porn? You're not providing any alternatives, simply spreading your doubt. You're in a very stressed state, that's fine, but unless you have something else to offer you're wasting your time posting.

Regardless of whether or not some people recover, life will be better without porn.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 07:21:43 PM by Tyr »

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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 09:06:59 PM »
I had PIED for 12 years (absolute lifeless dick when being intimate with women). After ~4 months of hard mode, I had succesful sex. I have been having sex since that point and I have only failed once. And that was in the second round. The next night I was good to go again. I had consecutive sex 4 days in a row without the slightest problem. I get hard by just snuggling. My erections stay for a long time and don't fade anymore. They had been fading brutally even while watching porn and I was PMOing with a half hard dick that needed constant stimulation. Even my excessive precum "problem" noticeably got better after five months. Withdrawals and urges occur but are a walk in the park compared to the beginning of the reboot. My porn fetishes have almost vanished. My 3 year long depression melted into thin air after only 26 days of hard mode reboot. I haven't been depressed for a single day ever since. I sleep extremely well. Before, I used to sleep up to 12 hours on the weekend and still felt tired. Nowadays I wake up on my own after 6-7 hours of sleep and feel refreshed. I'm so much more outgoing and socially competent. There are so many benefits, it is absolutely insane. I can only speak for myself but rebooting and powering through the first 3 months might have saved my life.

By the way. click this link to buy some of my snake oil which cures PIED in a heartbeat.

Jokes aside, I'm familiar with your story and I hope, you will eventually see the light at the tunnel. Being in your shoes must be extremely frustrating and I cross all my fingers that you will recover one day!

Take care!
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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2019, 06:23:05 AM »
I had PIED for 12 years (absolute lifeless dick when being intimate with women). After ~4 months of hard mode, I had succesful sex. I have been having sex since that point and I have only failed once. And that was in the second round. The next night I was good to go again. I had consecutive sex 4 days in a row without the slightest problem. I get hard by just snuggling. My erections stay for a long time and don't fade anymore. They had been fading brutally even while watching porn and I was PMOing with a half hard dick that needed constant stimulation. Even my excessive precum "problem" noticeably got better after five months. Withdrawals and urges occur but are a walk in the park compared to the beginning of the reboot. My porn fetishes have almost vanished. My 3 year long depression melted into thin air after only 26 days of hard mode reboot. I haven't been depressed for a single day ever since. I sleep extremely well. Before, I used to sleep up to 12 hours on the weekend and still felt tired. Nowadays I wake up on my own after 6-7 hours of sleep and feel refreshed. I'm so much more outgoing and socially competent. There are so many benefits, it is absolutely insane. I can only speak for myself but rebooting and powering through the first 3 months might have saved my life.

By the way. click this link to buy some of my snake oil which cures PIED in a heartbeat.

Jokes aside, I'm familiar with your story and I hope, you will eventually see the light at the tunnel. Being in your shoes must be extremely frustrating and I cross all my fingers that you will recover one day!

Take care!

Encouraging story and thanks for that.I have some questions.How long has it past since you have recovered?Did your libido, mw are back to normal? I ask this questions because  i read this might not be the same as was before,and I haven't found story's of recovered people saying how life is after 2-3 years after their recovery.

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 08:46:58 AM »
I think this is a matter of how you view "recovery" and "recovered". Some people think you can be "cured" while others view themselves as never "Cured" but as an addict for life but either "in recovery" or "consumed by their addiction". My husband is 3 yrs porn free. He can have sex when he wants to. His performance is impacted by stress from time to time but overall he functions physically with no complaints here. He experienced PIED  symptoms for over two decades. He is someone you could say is "recovered" but he chooses to view himself as "in recovery". He sees himself as on a journey to continue to progress and be better than he was the day before because for him it isn't just about weather or not he can become erect. It's about quality of life and sex is only one part of a bigger picture. It is important to understand these differences because otherwise you could easily become very discouraged as the poster of this thread clearly has become and for that I am sorry. Hope is paramount for happiness.

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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 08:57:08 AM »
Encouraging story and thanks for that.I have some questions.How long has it past since you have recovered?Did your libido, mw are back to normal? I ask this questions because  i read this might not be the same as was before,and I haven't found story's of recovered people saying how life is after 2-3 years after their recovery.

As of tomorrow I'm clean for 6 months. My libido and MW are back to normal. I had a flatline in the beginning that lasted 26 days and ended with a wet dream. After that everything improved drastically and things are still improving. As I said, after ~4 months I was able to have sex.
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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 12:12:44 AM »
Nope. Im recovered. You lose.
 Hey mods, why not delete a post like this? One that, oh I dunno, refutes the whole purpose of this forum?
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 04:28:47 AM »
I strongly advise against deleting 'such' posts. This is a forum and it's main purpose is to exchange information, views and experiences. They might differ, even by a huge margin, but deleting posts that are unpopular or even 'false' in one person's perception is censorship in my opinion. And that, I personally wouldn't want to have. There is a real human behind the OP and he seems to struggle badly despite trying to recover by the best of his abilities without a lot of success. Who wouldn't be frustrated maximally?!

And he might not even be wrong. There are quite a few cases where recovery seems a lot more difficult in many ways. Even though, I personally suspect his problems derive from elsewhere but what do I know? Neither am I a doctor nor can I take a closer look at him. All we have are written words on a forum.
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Re: YOU’RE DELUDING YOURSELVES – Recovery is not always possible!
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 03:19:57 PM »
its fine bro then. why suffer and yet you can fap your d**k off. go do so

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2019, 04:18:08 PM »
In this person's case, pornography is not the problem. Nobody is left impotent for life for having used porno so he has used it for 20 years. There are people who have used porn for a long time since their puberty and despite this, they are cured in a matter of 1 year maximum in the worst case 2 years.

It is possible that this forum member has a different problem and needs medical help.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?