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« Reply #200 on: November 29, 2019, 08:17:50 PM »
Sorry it wasn't the best day, it happens sometimes.

But it sounds like you're still moving forward and recovering from the disappointment of that girl. That's all great. Keep it up!

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« Reply #201 on: November 29, 2019, 08:35:56 PM »
 Yeah, but it get better everyday and the more I make realisation about that relationship and the more I'm happy it didn't continue!

Today was a much better day! At the job it was not as boring as usual and I went training and felt so well for doing it and after my training! I have to train tomorrow for upper body and legs. Plus, I have a reference to write for a friend, dancing and everything! It will be a beautiful day.

Not much else to say about today apart we will finish really late, because of the black friday...

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« Reply #202 on: November 30, 2019, 07:52:28 PM »
I'm really glad to hear that the day went much better! It seems like that always happens: you have a bad day and it seems like everything is ruined, but then the next day is better and you're back to normal.

Keep it going!

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« Reply #203 on: December 01, 2019, 07:28:33 AM »
Thanks Blue, bad days makes you appreciate good days even more. In fact, everyday you get better as you said. You just need to take time to process things.

Yesterday was an ok day. I actually eat only plant bases stuff, I'm planning to become vegetarian! I take it slow so I don't end up with missing important stuff in micro and macro nutrients.

I went to train and performed well I'm happy about that training, after I went dancing and it was great! Did a reference letter for a friend as well and feel good about having done it. If it helps him I'm gonna be even more happy.

Plus, I realised that I'm so happy and greatful of my decision to cut out porn from my life. Now, I'll concentrate my effort on cutting out O though M the same the way as I did with p. That way I'll keep my energy for what really matter to me.

Stay Strong Everyone :)

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« Reply #204 on: December 01, 2019, 07:30:10 PM »
Plus, I realised that I'm so happy and greatful of my decision to cut out porn from my life. Now, I'll concentrate my effort on cutting out O though M the same the way as I did with p. That way I'll keep my energy for what really matter to me.

Of everything you said, this seems like the most important: you are happy with your decision to change and seeing how it makes a difference in your life. That's everything. This is hard work, and it doesn't help when we have bad days. But it's great that you're recognizing how it really is worth it.

There may be days when your addiction makes you question if quitting is worth it (mine has been trying to tell me it isn't worth the last few days), but DON'T LISTEN! Remember what you realize now, and just press forward!

Sounds like other things are going well too, and that's awesome to hear. Just keep at it!

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« Reply #205 on: December 01, 2019, 11:34:59 PM »
There may be days when your addiction makes you question if quitting is worth it (mine has been trying to tell me it isn't worth the last few days), but DON'T LISTEN! Remember what you realize now, and just press forward!

Yeah, I haven't had that yet, but I'm not as far in my reboot as you are! But the sure thing is that we have to never listen to our brain when it try to tell us these kind of bullshit.

Today was a sort of ok day. I was working so it wasn't the best day, but it was kind of calm where I was! Near the end I was working close to the girl of the story I told earlier and only felt a sort of jealousy when she talk another female cashier. I don't even know why I had that, but it went away really fast(mainly my doing). Appart from that I finished so late at the job that I couldn't go dance.

Came back home directly and eat plant based meal to test the taste and it was good! Listened to a movie and now I'm about to meditate and go to sleep.

I wish you all a great night :)
Stay Strong

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« Reply #206 on: December 02, 2019, 09:12:57 PM »
The sort of ok day sounds not too bad. Glad you're sticking with it in the small things day to day: that's what really makes the difference.

Keep on going!

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« Reply #207 on: December 02, 2019, 09:55:16 PM »
Great man! Sounds like things are going really well.

Late reply (sorry been real busy and tired by the time I post) but you had asked for clarification about buyer's remorse.

Buyer's remorse basically means that a girl can do something with a guy, that she wanted to do in the moment. (Make out, sex, go home with and fool around) but later regret it. Kind of simple lol. But the more important part is why it can happen. Oftentimes when there is not enough comfort. So a girl can be excited in the moment, do something and later regret it. So our job is to recognize when it is too soon or inappropriate to get sexual (EVEN IS SHE WANTS TO) to prevent this.

I also know from experience having PIED can HUGELY exacerbate this. Like a girl makes a decision it ends up being an awkward/bad experience, much more liable for strong buyers remorse. And generally these girls will never want anything to do with you again, and any contact toward them will make her want to avoid you more.

I highly reccomend reading "The Mystery Method". You don't need to follow the whole method, it's not what many of us want. But that is where real game/pickup was basically invented and it will give you an understanding of women.

The popular pick up now oftentimes misses little things like this.

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« Reply #208 on: December 03, 2019, 12:02:58 PM »
The sort of ok day sounds not too bad. Glad you're sticking with it in the small things day to day: that's what really makes the difference.

Keep on going!

Thanks man! I try to see good things in the day to day life, even more when everything start to fuck up. I'm pretty mich back to normal and have learned from that experience. Focusing on improving myself and my lifestype in general. One step at a time!

Great man! Sounds like things are going really well.

Late reply (sorry been real busy and tired by the time I post) but you had asked for clarification about buyer's remorse.

Buyer's remorse basically means that a girl can do something with a guy, that she wanted to do in the moment. (Make out, sex, go home with and fool around) but later regret it. Kind of simple lol. But the more important part is why it can happen. Oftentimes when there is not enough comfort. So a girl can be excited in the moment, do something and later regret it. So our job is to recognize when it is too soon or inappropriate to get sexual (EVEN IS SHE WANTS TO) to prevent this.

I also know from experience having PIED can HUGELY exacerbate this. Like a girl makes a decision it ends up being an awkward/bad experience, much more liable for strong buyers remorse. And generally these girls will never want anything to do with you again, and any contact toward them will make her want to avoid you more.

I highly reccomend reading "The Mystery Method". You don't need to follow the whole method, it's not what many of us want. But that is where real game/pickup was basically invented and it will give you an understanding of women.

The popular pick up now oftentimes misses little things like this.

Thanks for all the info! I knew the big lines, but not as in depth. I know that I messed up something and I think it was creating a good narrative for herself to refer to after we tried to do something. Because you're right if there wasn't enough comfort and I don't make her think/feel of a better story to tell to herself after, she would make one that would be extremely negative. So, basically, exactly what happen with her. That's something I wasn't completely aware of and that I will do my best to correct to avoid doing it again!

I'll definitely read the book! I've heard about it, but never looked into it!

I want to thanks both of you for the support and the info/thoughts on a touchy subject and short section of my life!

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« Reply #209 on: December 03, 2019, 06:27:40 PM »
Always glad to help however I can!

One step at a time is exactly right. I keep trying to remind myself that I don't have to have it all figured out: I just need to focus on doing whatever the next step is.

Let's keep stepping!

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« Reply #210 on: December 03, 2019, 09:21:16 PM »
Yeah man good insights. Yeah that narrative  idea is important too. For me the key thing that narrative teaches, is the general concept that a girls perfection  of the event can change AFTER the fact.

Like some modern "game" has all this funny flashy stuff and in the moment the girl can think fun, let's hang out! But the dude like runs up gets her number and runs off. Afterward it makes no sense and is weird.

Buyers remorse is like that on a really high level. The girl has sex and after is like wtf did I do? And it's a train wreck from there.

Glad to hear you'll read mystery method.... it'll fill
In a lot of holes in understanding. You don't need to follow all of it but there is so much detail and explanation it always fills in something.

For example I learned about not facing a girl head on when approaching. New school bullshit pick up like rsd says that doesn't matter and it's all how you feel. But in reality, starting a convo "over the shoulder" makes girls respond about 80% better in a cold approach.

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« Reply #211 on: December 03, 2019, 10:36:12 PM »
Yeah man good insights. Yeah that narrative  idea is important too. For me the key thing that narrative teaches, is the general concept that a girls perfection  of the event can change AFTER the fact.

Like some modern "game" has all this funny flashy stuff and in the moment the girl can think fun, let's hang out! But the dude like runs up gets her number and runs off. Afterward it makes no sense and is weird.

Buyers remorse is like that on a really high level. The girl has sex and after is like wtf did I do? And it's a train wreck from there.

Glad to hear you'll read mystery method.... it'll fill
In a lot of holes in understanding. You don't need to follow all of it but there is so much detail and explanation it always fills in something.

For example I learned about not facing a girl head on when approaching. New school bullshit pick up like rsd says that doesn't matter and it's all how you feel. But in reality, starting a convo "over the shoulder" makes girls respond about 80% better in a cold approach.


I agree that most modern pick up is shit! I've watched rsd stuff at one point, but quickly realize that It was mostly guru shit. I've watched Todd V after his leaving of rsd and he seems to really put right thing out there no flashy shit whatsoever! Have you checked his stuff recently?

I didn't really started my "Game" journey yet! I think I'm mainly scared, my PIED kind of stress me a little bit...

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« Reply #212 on: December 03, 2019, 10:44:22 PM »
Man, awesome you noticed that about RSD. Nail on the head. Yeah Todd is pretty good. I definitely got some results with his stuff.
Sounds like you are doing great with girls, really the key is getting the PIED under control, I wouldn't worry about too much pick up. Just knowing some solid basics is good. Guys (ESPECIALLY me) over due cold approach. Just some solid understanding of basics, maybe read mystery method so you can know about some things to avoid (like buyers remorse) and understand why and good to go imo.

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« Reply #213 on: December 03, 2019, 11:00:18 PM »
Man, awesome you noticed that about RSD. Nail on the head. Yeah Todd is pretty good. I definitely got some results with his stuff.
Sounds like you are doing great with girls, really the key is getting the PIED under control, I wouldn't worry about too much pick up. Just knowing some solid basics is good. Guys (ESPECIALLY me) over due cold approach. Just some solid understanding of basics, maybe read mystery method so you can know about some things to avoid (like buyers remorse) and understand why and good to go imo.

I think I'll get really good once I start to do cold approach. My PIED is killing me, but at the same time it's the perfect motivator to keep doing the reboot! I just wish it wasn't so bad I could at least fuck a little bit before it hits... What do you mean by "over due"?

I'll really buy that book, I'm really curious about it!

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« Reply #214 on: December 03, 2019, 11:09:32 PM »
Shitty grammar/ spelling I guess lol.

Over do (not due). I meant. Like too much cold approach. Guys mass approach like tons of girls. That actually makes them worse with girls. Better to like say, go out to a bar have fun talk to the two girls nearby and have a long good talk, often get a date. Or talk to the girl behind you in line at the store. Shit like that.


Mass approaching just doesn't work.
The best game is having it fit in to your lifestyle, metting girls through cool shit like dance and stuff. So you are already there, so don't like make cold approach your main thing, when you are already in a better position.

But yeah a little cold approach can be cool. But trust me you are doing better and in a better position then 98% of guys doing cold approach, the grass is always greener.

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« Reply #215 on: December 03, 2019, 11:37:00 PM »
Shitty grammar/ spelling I guess lol.

Over do (not due). I meant. Like too much cold approach. Guys mass approach like tons of girls. That actually makes them worse with girls. Better to like say, go out to a bar have fun talk to the two girls nearby and have a long good talk, often get a date. Or talk to the girl behind you in line at the store. Shit like that.


Mass approaching just doesn't work.
The best game is having it fit in to your lifestyle, metting girls through cool shit like dance and stuff. So you are already there, so don't like make cold approach your main thing, when you are already in a better position.

But yeah a little cold approach can be cool. But trust me you are doing better and in a better position then 98% of guys doing cold approach, the grass is always greener.

Yeah, the famous shitty number game. Todd had an interesting view on that. I took cold approach like going to the gym. If you do to many set without thinking or making sometimes needed ajustement you'll get stuck where you are or get worse. He got a video on how much should you go out and game. After having the general idea of the minimum threshold you make it fit your lifestyle.

To resume the video it was along the line of you do what work for you, but a minimum of 3 X 3 is preferable. So 3 sets per day for 3 days in a week minimum if you want to get better faster do 3 sets × 5 days. That way you had time to go back home and analyse your game and think about small tweak you could make to improve in one thing and try it the next day to see if it work. This method has the merit of building momentum, having to take your time and enjoy each sets with each girl and making meeting and seduce girls a daily habit!

That how I see the Game quality over quantity everytime ;)
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« Reply #216 on: December 05, 2019, 11:30:37 AM »
The last couples of days have been kind of lame with some highs and some lows, but overall they have been more good! I'm almost back on track money wise and that's a good thing. I have some trouble to manage my time with making food since I switched vegetarian around a week ago, but it's getting there. Lacking some sleep, mainly because of the food thing, but I'll manage like I always do!

On the more "meh" news, when I sleep badly or wake up and have a sort of insomnia often I mo... That's what I did two night ago, I mo'ed while thinking about the girl that I couldn't fuck because of my PIED. What I'm espacially not happy about is that near the end to actually finish I had to "switch" between small portion of certain moments during the act.... exactly porn like! I'm really not happy about that and now it's not even an option I have to stop mo as well!.. Otherwise, I will end up in a really bad situation even though I don't have urges or cravings for porn! It is to high of a risk and doesn't worth it. Insomnia as always been a big factor in all my previous relapse and I won't let it happen again!

Take care everyone :)

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« Reply #217 on: December 05, 2019, 08:50:16 PM »
Glad to hear the days are overall getting better!

I wouldn't worry too much about your food preparation taking longer: you just made a significant change to your diet, so it will take a little time for you to settle into a new routine. All part of the process.

I really support your decision to cut MO out of your life. If you find yourself getting into a pattern of MOing when you're feeling bad or lacking sleep and it's predictable, it sounds like another version of the addictive cycle. Maybe not as bad as PMO, but still a compulsive behavior that you don't need.

Keep pushing forward!

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« Reply #218 on: December 06, 2019, 10:45:00 AM »
I really support your decision to cut MO out of your life. If you find yourself getting into a pattern of MOing when you're feeling bad or lacking sleep and it's predictable, it sounds like another version of the addictive cycle. Maybe not as bad as PMO, but still a compulsive behavior that you don't need.

Thanks, I definitely agree with you. Another "softer" version of the same problem that could cause a complete relapse if not taking care of!

In the mean time, yesterday was awesome for the most part. The working part wasn't as bad as usual, mainly because I had another guy in the warehouse with me and we were having fun! Though, the best part of the day was the social I went after work! I've stayed there from 10h30pm to almost 1am and it was really fun!! I'll do it more that's for sure :)

I'll have to take some time to meditate to prevent any sickness, because everyone at home is sick except me amd I lack sleep. So to prevent becoming sick I'll meditate later in the day!

Nothing new otherwise, take care everyone ;)

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« Reply #219 on: December 06, 2019, 07:34:25 PM »
That's awesome that you had a good time at the social. I'm the kind of person who usually likes to stay at home, but it can be really nice to get out and change your routine and spend some time around people. I think you definitely should keep doing more of that when you get the chance.

Keep doing great things!

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« Reply #220 on: December 06, 2019, 09:29:02 PM »
Shitty grammar/ spelling I guess lol.

Over do (not due). I meant. Like too much cold approach. Guys mass approach like tons of girls. That actually makes them worse with girls. Better to like say, go out to a bar have fun talk to the two girls nearby and have a long good talk, often get a date. Or talk to the girl behind you in line at the store. Shit like that.


Mass approaching just doesn't work.
The best game is having it fit in to your lifestyle, metting girls through cool shit like dance and stuff. So you are already there, so don't like make cold approach your main thing, when you are already in a better position.

But yeah a little cold approach can be cool. But trust me you are doing better and in a better position then 98% of guys doing cold approach, the grass is always greener.

Yeah, the famous shitty number game. Todd had an interesting view on that. I took cold approach like going to the gym. If you do to many set without thinking or making sometimes needed ajustement you'll get stuck where you are or get worse. He got a video on how much should you go out and game. After having the general idea of the minimum threshold you make it fit your lifestyle.

To resume the video it was along the line of you do what work for you, but a minimum of 3 X 3 is preferable. So 3 sets per day for 3 days in a week minimum if you want to get better faster do 3 sets × 5 days. That way you had time to go back home and analyse your game and think about small tweak you could make to improve in one thing and try it the next day to see if it work. This method has the merit of building momentum, having to take your time and enjoy each sets with each girl and making meeting and seduce girls a daily habit!

That how I see the Game quality over quantity everytime ;)

Nice man, that sounds like a good way to go. I think 3 by is a good sweet spot. I may just do that. I think for me, that's a good way to get a decent amount of dates. (and shift through them to find my favorite). You are getting me thinking, maybe I ought to check out a little bit of todd's stuff. I had a few of his programs.
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« Reply #221 on: December 06, 2019, 10:31:07 PM »
That's awesome that you had a good time at the social. I'm the kind of person who usually likes to stay at home, but it can be really nice to get out and change your routine and spend some time around people. I think you definitely should keep doing more of that when you get the chance.

Keep doing great things!

Thanks man, yeah I'll do alot more that's for sure. I used to be like that and actually I'm still alot like that. I like to relax home as well, but I feel so good when I go out and just dance with people. Pmo or anysort of mo is completely out the window... it doesn't even exist during these times! The better I'll get, more fun I'll have with dancing! If you can take dance classes, I'm sure you would have fun :)

Nice man, that sounds like a good way to go. I think 3 by is a good sweet spot. I may just do that. I think for me, that's a good way to get a decent amount of dates. (and shift through them to find my favorite). You are getting me thinking, maybe I ought to check out a little bit of todd's stuff. I had a few of his programs.

Yeah, try it and give me some news on it. I would need to start to actually doing some approaches, but I think I may actually start with gradual desensitization. Approaching women out out socials and "regular" context cause some anxiety!

Today, kind of alot happened and it show how much I'm fed up of my work. I got suspended for fooling around, talking to people, dancing, misunderstood something that I've been asked to do and asked someone to do it, etc... That work kills me! I need to work, because I need money. At the same time I don't need that specific job, but I like most people that work there!

On a better note, I went to do a salsa dance with a teacher that explain better than the other main teacher of salsa and I've seen some moves in an advance class! I'll be able to practice these and start to get alot better in salsa! Plus I had more time for me and was able to relax a little bit! So that suspension is not the worst thing that happen to me recently! It has some good thing attached to it even though it's not the best situation!

Otherwise, I'm happy with my training progress. I've been making quite a lot out of it! That feel really good! I think the job thing is a reminder that even if I need money I must continue to work hard at school to not stay there!...

Take care everyone :)

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Man, sorry to hear about the suspension! Sounds like the job is worth keeping, so you an aim to adjust things a bit. Like I had a job I didn't love that I left when I moved, looking back I am like woah that was such a good job! If you do decide to leave ALWAYS make sure you have a new job FIRST.

As far as approaching: MAKE SURE YOU CALIBRATE. If you are in a big city it can be cool to do some low risk approaches but you don't want to go around doing aggressive approaches, ESPECIALLY on your college campus.

Keep in mind, good approaches aren't really all that different from just being friendly and starting conversations with people.

Just wanted to mention this, because it seems you are in college, and I have known many people who "practied" approaching on their campuses and approached every girl lol.

Also erring on the side of low risk approaches is great.

I remember I and many others thought like you had to "suck it up" and the scarier the approach was the better, focusing on direct approaches. But these approaches are often higher risk and LOWER reward! Luckily I think Todd does bring this up. If a girl will like you when you are super direct, she also probably will like you if you are very indirect. But some girls that would have liked you if you are indirect, won't like you when you are direct. On top of that, direct approaches can be risky. Do too many and end up with a reputation, some girls get uncomfortable.

Funny example, I was just talking about this same thing with my friend about a week and a half ago on our way to an event. On our way to the event there was this girl that was really appealing. I opened her with a friendly sort of tease, I opened as we passed her not walking right up to her, it was the sort of thing that could be interpreted as flirting sort of or just joking around and being friendly. She laughed a bit and was friendly. Turned out she was going to the same event! She was clearly a bit intrigued by me and looking at me.

But this wasn't really a social function so we didn't get to talk much, and that is okay.

Let's look at the "high risk" direct version. Had I walked head on to her and told her she was cute. There is a good chance it does not get her interested. Even if she responded positvely and was like "oh that is so nice of you, okay bye!" (the BEST CASE for 99.9% of direct approaches). Imagine how weird and awkward it would be at the event? Even if all went "okay" she is sitting in a room near the guy who just hit on her and she just turned down, this is super awkward and uncomfortable for a woman.

Even if it went well, are we like a couple now? We'd be stuck in an event together for like two hours. Now it's basically a date, which wouldn't really work. Chances are the excitment of that approach would fizzle in that time. Whereas something saavier, more flirty and playful can result in hours of coy flirting and looking at each other, so the tension/ excitment does not need to immediately die.

You may already know this stuff, just harping on it since modern game sucks sooo bad lol. Todd is pretty good but I think occasionally he says some weird stuff. So in general use your discernment and social intelligence to act appropriate with game and in social situations.

Actually that could apply to this job situation too... Were you warned? Was there a chance to change your actions to not get suspended? Are you spending much of work practicing game principle? It's important to always be aware of our actions. I keep harping on this but so many guys study game and then treat the world as their game practice lab, but it can have consequences.

I am quite cautious about stuff like this. Because nowadays it is SUPER COMMON for guys to read game stuff, try it or try and live game principles or whatever and end up fired from jobs, alienating friends, even getting into legal trouble accidentally making people uncomfortable.

I met a guy who got kicked out of a college, after he practiced game by approaching every girl. I had a friend who got super into game and mysteriously got fired from his job. Countless examples.

Given that you just had this girl from work get buyers remorse, and you just got suspended from the job, for the moment I wouldn't take any risks with game or try cold approach, I'd focus for awhile on staying on the path you are on and being socially conventional.
1) A girl alienated
2) Suspended from job
3) - If another thing happens soon (like practicing some Todd neg/line on a coworker) goes badly you could end up with a pretty bad reputation.

So for now maybe you can put that game study time into something else.... more dance practice or maybe another cool hobby. Those things will attract girls anyways.
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« Reply #223 on: Today at 10:58:00 AM »
Given that you just had this girl from work get buyers remorse, and you just got suspended from the job, for the moment I wouldn't take any risks with game or try cold approach, I'd focus for awhile on staying on the path you are on and being socially conventional.
1) A girl alienated
2) Suspended from job
3) - If another thing happens soon (like practicing some Todd neg/line on a coworker) goes badly you could end up with a pretty bad reputation.

So for now maybe you can put that game study time into something else.... more dance practice or maybe another cool hobby. Those things will attract girls anyways.

Thanks for the support man :)

To be honest, workwise I already have a bad reputation. They've always pissed me off with their shitty decision and putting useless people that don't do shit to "power". So when I realise they've been putting a lot of work on me so that other can do nothing, I stopped making effort! Plus, I love to talk, interact with people and they don't like it! I can't help myself, but to talk to people... coworker, customers, cashier, bosses, etc... they've put me as far as possible from everything of the above, because I love to talk. I have some hard time to comply to stupid rules... I know... It doesn't help my cause, but in anycase I'll keep a low profil from now on at the job!

As for the game, I don't do it at work... it's too risky! The girl I've tried with, recently, had an evident crush on me and I thought she's cute... so I tried. Otherwise, currently I don't really game per say. I want to start, but far from work. I know about the normal conversation, but I really do have anxiety when it come time to talk to them. Btw, unless it's evident that a girl as something for me I won't game at school either! Maybe game in an indirect way, but never direct! It's the worst shit possible in this scenario!

The thing is, I have a lot a theory, but not much practice. Dancing wise, I will focus alot of effort on it to get better. As for other hobbies, with work dance and study I barely have time. I work around 40 hours and travel to work around 10 hours, so I lose 50 hours just for the job... Remove another 42 to 56 hours to sleep and 15 hours for training. There's 168 hours in a week - 107 hours already taking I spend around 14hours a week making food. I only have around 47 hours left in my week... that's without counting shower/bath time, house cleaning stuff, etc...

The reasons it's important for me to learn Game, are that I never had any control over that aspect of my life. I was never in a position in school to meet girls and I was hiding home for the most part of my life. I start to get out and I want to start a real dating life...

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Re: My Reboot Journal
« Reply #224 on: Today at 01:26:32 PM »
Great man, it sounds like you get it and are in the right mindset as far as being smart about game. Sorry I pounded on that point so much lol. Just I've seen it go the wrong way so much.

Sounds like you have the right mindset for working on some game. But man, if you are that busy and don't have the time that is okay! Like if you were spending your time playing video games or PMOing I'd say cut that stuff out and game. But you are doing school, dancing and working. That is a great place to be, busy with all healthy productive things. All those things are higher priorities then game imo. So don't sweat it at all if you don't have time to cold approach!

Keep in mind..... your "game" and ability with girls can improve DRASTICALLY without doing cold approach. Like you are dancing right? If you put your effort all in on dancing and get really good because you are passionate about it. That is like NEXT LEVEL game.

You understand what I mean? Like it goes like.

Level 0: Shitty with girls. Level 1: Practicing approach Level 3: Good at cold approach Level 4: Doing awesome cool stuff that gets you girls as part of your life.

You are already at a higher level! Dancing is one of the best ways to meet girls (if you really like it!) which you clearly do. Take me, I hate salsa etc. (no offense lol) so going there it just didn't really work to meet girls. But you love it, if you really enjoy it and get good and the girls are almost secondary I pretty much guarantee you'll be able to get girls from it AND:

Dancing itself can up your game. Sometimes you pull the girl in close sometimes you push her away a bit. You have to read her body language. All of this stuff is HUGE for game. So you're game will get pretty damn good just by the dancing. It's not all about watching videos and cold approach. Even better the dancing will increase your comfort with women (this is the thing that is often left out) AND when you get really good, inevitably in certain dance situations lots and lots of girls will really want you and THEY will be trying to game and chase you. Obviously that is great in it's own right. But this will also get you comfortable with women wanting and chasing you. Which again is like the highest level of game.

Trust me, most guys doing cold approach don't get any results, even guys selling courses. Left out are those real keys to game, the comfort with women. Comfortable with women chasing you, learning to accept when a girl likes you. All these things you are in a great position to learn and get, much better then many guys approaching lots of girls.

Maybe a little too long but cliffs: You are already in a GREAT position to get good game, much better then having to just go out and do cold approach. So keep doing what your doing and put your efforts in keeping all this stuff progressing and maintaining what you've got like the job dance etc. (Or if you want to get a new job do it INTELLIGENTLY by finding a new job FIRST then giving notice to quit).

Also man I'll give you an extra tip on how to get your game better faster without having to change your lifestyle or cold approach: Keep a journal or take little notes about your day and interactions with girls. You'll notice things you didn't notice in the moment, and this will increase your understanding of game, calibration and social intelligence. You won't have to change much, but you'll notice little things like "oh when I said this joke the girl smiled at me, but then when I said a similar more extreme version of the joke afterward she lost interest" so something like that will help you over time to learn like when is a good time for a joke, when you're over doing it or being try hard etc.
It'll help you naturally calibrate more and more overtime just be making you more socially aware. ( I really want to start this again myself, it really helps!).
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