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Tom65

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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2018, 11:24:49 PM »
I disagree somewhat. Real live people are not porn. Getting a rush when you are attracted to someone is not bad, it is normal. It is substituting porn for real people that is the problem.

Agree
Like I did this morning had a dream (not a porn) about a woman I meet (before my wife) and the sensual relationship we had. And we never made it in to having sex.
This is normal to think and dream, now I need to NOT take the substitute and watch porn even that my body just screame do it do it. Wife is sleeping and I am wanting to put on the pc and.....

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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2018, 07:58:11 AM »
I disagree somewhat. Real live people are not porn. Getting a rush when you are attracted to someone is not bad, it is normal. It is substituting porn for real people that is the problem.
Is going to a strip club not porn?  Those are real people...  Noticing someone is attractive to you is NOT the issue, but when it goes into oggling and getting a thrill from undressing them with your mind, then you've made them defacto porn.  It comes down to what ever gives your brain the dopamine blast.  The dopamine is the drug we are addicted to.  I hope I've made myself clearer.  We should notice those we find attratactive, that IS natural, just not turning them into a collection of body parts for us to enjoy, instead of the whole person.  It comes under the classification of what is called on RN as, "P-Subs or Porn Substitutes".  Dreams for the most part uncontrollable, but during this time of rebooting it is common to have erotic dreams as your brain is desperately trying to get you to feed it some dopamine.  You'll know your turning a corner when you realize in a dream whats happening and awake to escape giving in.  Many men try to make exceptions to excuse keeping some form of porn in their lives, they still love it and hope to continue dancing with the devil on their own terms, but this is folly.  If you're not ready to eliminate everything, you're not ready to quit, period.  From the responses I'm reading it would seem several men aren't ready to quit and so I'm wasting my time and will exit the discussion.  Best of luck.
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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2018, 04:01:54 AM »
Day 17....  ;D    PMO free..!!!! 

What I've noticed:

- I'm not looking at women in such a lustful or objectifying way - I see them now for their beauty
- The urge to MO is diminishing - yes, I still get pangs of desire to masturbate but I can put them off more easily
- I'm still having vivid dreams about sex - last night I was dreaming of wanking to a porn mag  (which I haven't done for a long time)
- My energy levels are quite good - have I seen the surge that people talk about.. No... but i suppose I'm still early stages
- Nocturnal erections and morning wood are certainly more regular but not yet consistently perfect
- When I do have a sexy thought or happen to see an image I just can't avoid then I do sense more reaction / feeling in my groin

All-in-all it's a positive for me. I do realise I have a long way to go and I'm hoping for marked improvement over the next few weeks.

In some ways I'm desperate to have sex to "test" myself but I also have a slight trepidation that I might not be ready and fail.  Time will tell.
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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2018, 04:24:22 AM »
Day 17....  ;D    PMO free..!!!! 

What I've noticed:

- I'm not looking at women in such a lustful or objectifying way - I see them now for their beauty
- The urge to MO is diminishing - yes, I still get pangs of desire to masturbate but I can put them off more easily
- I'm still having vivid dreams about sex - last night I was dreaming of wanking to a porn mag  (which I haven't done for a long time)
- My energy levels are quite good - have I seen the surge that people talk about.. No... but i suppose I'm still early stages
- Nocturnal erections and morning wood are certainly more regular but not yet consistently perfect
- When I do have a sexy thought or happen to see an image I just can't avoid then I do sense more reaction / feeling in my groin

All-in-all it's a positive for me. I do realise I have a long way to go and I'm hoping for marked improvement over the next few weeks.

In some ways I'm desperate to have sex to "test" myself but I also have a slight trepidation that I might not be ready and fail.  Time will tell.

Wish I cud be there to soon!
You are an Inspiration to me.
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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2018, 04:25:10 AM »
We should notice those we find attratactive, that IS natural, just not turning them into a collection of body parts for us to enjoy, instead of the whole person. 

Yep, I agree - for years I've looked at an attractive female and, in my mind, put her into the porn scenarios that I was watching online.  Now its' like the off-switch triggers quickly and, even if I look, there is nothing near the lustful reaction I previously had.

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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2018, 04:29:03 AM »
Thanks Tom, keep at it, keep a positive mind. Remind yourself every day of why you're doing this and the thought of what you'll be like once you rid yourself of your porn addiction.

On bad days you have to play a few NoFap videos - I find them so inspirational and keeps me on-track.

Good luck...!!

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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2018, 07:13:51 AM »
Milogasker,

Thanks for posting your journal, I'm just starting my abstinence journey and reading other people's experiences helps a lot.

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Re: So many layers of porn addiction I'm not sure where to start......
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2018, 09:59:58 AM »
Hi atpeace,  good to hear you're on the journey..!    It takes resilience and belief in yourself - I find the end goal of being in total control of my dick totally focuses my mind. I hate PIED and have lived with it for far too long.

It's a tough journey at times with its share of challenges but keep focused - if I struggle I turn to the plethora of NoFap videos on the web and it does help me keep focused.

Good luck...  you can do this...!!!!!

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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2018, 09:11:44 AM »
DAY 20...!!!!   well I have a small confession - at Day 17 I was having a bad work day and I just had to MO.  I was also eager to see if I could keep it up without having to resort to porn or fantasies in my mind.. BIG MISTAKE...  it was half-hearted from him down below and I realised then that this isn't just a jog around the block, this is a marathon... or  even back-to-back marathons.

Yes, I felt a sense of failure.   Yes, I felt guilty.  Yes, I was disappointed in myself.   And Yes, for a few moments I did think why the f**k am I even trying this shit and is this a physical rather than mental problem.     BUT... I so want to get rid of PIED and have total freedom and confidence to be sexually active on a whim without making excuses or having to plan when I take a little pill.

I haven't reset my Counter as it's abstinence from Porn that I am trying to achieve here, so on that score I am still winning.

I so hope that DAY 40 will bring some clarity and positive results - until then, well... keep jogging..!!

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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2018, 04:08:19 AM »
DAY 28 -  still on track and keeping away from PMO. Morning wood is getting stronger but I can't say I have experienced any other real changes in my body / general well-being.   I do however notice that when I look at females in the street I don't have the same feeling of lust and desire that I used to have.  It's no longer a lustful feeling of  "I want to have that.."  but more "That's pretty.."  and admiring their beauty.

I have changed my routine by going for a long walk in the morning when I'd usually be at my home-office on my own and probably surfing for porn.   

Anyway, onwards and upwards... !!

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« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2018, 03:37:47 AM »
DAY 28 -  still on track and keeping away from PMO. Morning wood is getting stronger but I can't say I have experienced any other real changes in my body / general well-being.   I do however notice that when I look at females in the street I don't have the same feeling of lust and desire that I used to have.  It's no longer a lustful feeling of  "I want to have that.."  but more "That's pretty.."  and admiring their beauty.

I have changed my routine by going for a long walk in the morning when I'd usually be at my home-office on my own and probably surfing for porn.   

Anyway, onwards and upwards... !!

Hi milogasker!
You doing progress!
Hoping i will get to that point to some time soon!

Keep on doing what you do and i look in for some self boost...

Tom
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2018, 09:26:13 AM »
DAY 33 - a whole month (and a bit) in and going strong.  I have had the odd MO and I'm okay with that. I'm of the mindset that it's the porn videos that I'm getting away from - the dulling of the senses and reward centre that we've all read about -  rather than fully laying off MO. Yes, I realise that the vice grip can dull your penis but I'm doing a lot less than I used to.

I obviously wanted to check what benefit this has had to my psyche and if my brain was getting back to normal - so I had sex and it was really good..!  For the first time in years it didn't fail me. I didn't loose wood if I changed position or lost concentration for a second. Yes, I took a blue pill beforehand (and these have failed me every time in the past) so there has definitely been some real effect on my brain - and that's only in 30 DAYS..!!!!!!  I was amazed and so pleased to have at least gained control of my dick again.

I have no doubt this might fail if I don't keep to a rigid and strict programme of no PMO and not even looking at naked women.  I just long for the day when I can perform without a blue pill - worry here might again be psychological and I have come to rely on the pill. Time will tell.

So, in summary, I'm totally heading in the right direction - if after 20+ years of porn use I have seen vast improvement in just 30 days then there is hope for all of us.!!!