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Re: quit for good
« Reply #425 on: May 15, 2020, 05:03:56 AM »
This fact is a great inspiration for many of us Joe. I think the other thing that stands out with your journey is your decision to stay part of the community despite your considerable success. It would be intersting to know what happens to the members who historically have been active here, then drifted away. Have they overcome their addiction succesfully, or have they drifted back into their old ways because the journey was too hard for them at that particular time? For me, I think the biggest threat to my recovery would be not being here. It's a good daily habit that focusses me on the journey, and reinforces the connections with other like minded warriers. Long may it continue.



  I know this is a bit repetative  but I am so amazed  I never thought i wold go from pmo'ing 3 or 4 times a week for 3 or 4 or 5 hours at a time sometimes  or chatting in a sex chat room for as many as 5  hours for the last  close to 20 years (add in the vhs and maags for 10 years  before that) down to  being  almost 6 months without any pmo  or sext chat   and I think Ive only m 3 or 4 times   I have no urges  anymore  and Ive never felt better emotionally mentally or physically.

Live with areté, focus on what you control, take responsibility = Eudaimonia.

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« Reply #426 on: May 15, 2020, 07:34:09 PM »
Hey Guys,  "Who knows what becomes of the broken-hearted?" I think it's a decent line from a song. We'll probably never know what became of those brothers who fell off the wagon completely.
But while we are here let's try to make each other's lives much better/happier.
So I'm inviting you guys to throw me a "party" on Sunday May 17, for my #10 clean day. All invited!
Seeing this is virtual you all can give me an asterisk or a dollar sign or whatever floats your boat. Leave a present on my journal.
If this works/is fun, everyone can set their own milestone/party.  I'll bring something expensive like an equal sign. hahaha

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« Reply #427 on: May 16, 2020, 12:56:18 AM »
Day 159

      This may be a tough read for some   especially partners of addicts  so reader beware
 
            Lost for as to what to write its quite early being 130 am  here   I almost feel as I am no longer an addict  although I know I am  or at least an ex addict   If I could go for some sort of hynosis  to forget I ever was one I would   I am also really close to posting in the success section  due to the site here going down every once in a while.  As for the brothers who have left I guess we'll never know.
   Its possible for the next little while  my posts may be sporadic  mundane  odd  or who  knows what. I almost  feel as though I want to look at one clip just to see  how it would affect me  but  am scared of the worst case scenerio.  So I wont  but that tells mne something  It tells me I may always have a constant reminder that at one time I was a porn addict. But all  I can say is that I am a good person  who had a bad habit   my wife loves me and I her  and we have a great marraige  and family so I suppose that is whats most important.  I here the stories of  partners who  people who are porn addicts and how they lie  and it is very one sided and  from their point of view  the deciet in the relationship is all that matters or how they dont get sex  and they are being cruelly cheated on and I wish there was something I could say to  help them . Something I could say to their porn addicted partner.  But one who  lies that much  its more than just a  porn issue  its probably a personality issue  and they are never going to change or their is actually valid reasons for the way they are and it really would take professional help  for both to get past it    Than I read about the  addicts who try so hard  to quit and I look at the  back story  how they feel they were neglected in their marraige  and just dont know which way to turn anymore  because they are trying and there partner is not supporting them   after all  porn is an addiction  a sickness if you will and that sickess needs to be healed

   cheers

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Re: quit for good
« Reply #428 on: May 17, 2020, 05:15:49 AM »
I almost  feel as though I want to look at one clip just to see  how it would affect me  but  am scared of the worst case scenerio.  So I wont  but that tells mne something  It tells me I may always have a constant reminder that at one time I was a porn addict. But all  I can say is that I am a good person  who had a bad habit   my wife loves me and I her  and we have a great marraige  and family so I suppose that is whats most important.
Hey Joe - I am intrigued by this. It reads a little bit like you are ashamed of the fact that you have an addiction. I don't see it like that at all. You have, as of now, conquered that addiction and you are an inspiration to many on here (myself definitely included). That doesn't mean that you are infallible of course and must not get complacent. Your status as an addict is not something to be ashamed as, rather something which says heaps about your self awareness, character, determination, self respect, love for yourself (a good thing!) and your family, not to mention your success in overcoming it and the meaningful role you play in helping others here. What is wrong with having a constant reminder of that!? It's a badge of honour - a war wound. Also, what is the motivation for 'just looking at one clip?' The motivation must be deeper than 'just to see how it would affect me'?
I'm genuinely intrigued, but at the same time, fighting a little to stop you riding off into the sunset and ignoring your own excellent footnote 'Post often it helps me it helps you'. Take care my friend.
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« Reply #429 on: May 17, 2020, 09:21:56 AM »
Day 160 

   A little more rambling but  there always seems to be a valid point to debate  in rambling it seems

  Woke up after sleeping in on a Sunday morning to Sunshine.  Just the kind of morning you love to see(although its a touch chilly for mid may)  I'm must say I am kind of happy as to the reaction I got on my last post.  Reading the response  allowed me to reflect a little further on it.  UKGuy  thanks for tuning in and putting your own  thoughts in on it. It gave me a little more to think about.  I can't say as I am ashamed that I was a porn addict but am definatly bummed out by the waste or time  it caused and the lost oppertunities caused by it.  I am hitting 50  and I can say I have achieved quite a lot more than some of my  (I assume "non addicted to porn" friends)  They  always say money is  not a measure of success  but lets be real here.I am actually stairing my retirement date  in the eyes these days after after 33 years in the work force   I think by the time I am 58 I can be done.  I got married later in life(36) than most of my friends  or family members but  alot of my friends have either divorced or  their marragies are a sham (1 couple was constantly fighting and when he tried to get in the car to go for a drive one evening to cool off  his wife sat on the hood of his car  and wouldnt let him go  weeks later he through a telephone  across the room so his kid told a teacher at school  next thing the cops took him away  and  it did nothing more than cost eveyone a shit load of money)   Some of my friends had no clue how to treat a lady period  and I'm pretty sure  they are not porn addicts.  This just goes to show that there are truly  some pretty serious problems with the human condition.

  As for shame  like I say   I dont feel ashamed  of looking at it all those years as I say there were valid reasons as to why  it happened   IE   not having a  strong mentor as a child and teenager, social isolation as a teenager, low self esteem etc.   What I am more ashamed or rather embarrassed) of is being part of a society  that  can put a man on the moon but cannot solve serious problems in our society  ie hunger   people having to live in debt, homlessness.   I actually  feel quite strong and know I wont tempt fate  with looking at it to see what will happen.  I  suppose I  can say I am proud of myself for having beaten this addiction.  I dont think I have ever felt this much inner strength in my whole life. This inner strength has allowed me to change my body composition from being a little on the flabby side to actually seeing results on both the scale and in the miirror. 
     
  I think my badge of honour is  that I was dealt some pretty hard blows when I was younger  but  have risen above  them and made something of myself.  it just took a little longer to fight my way through the damage of  those blows.  Lets look at it  as a boxing match where you took serious damage in the 1st round barely held on the next 10 and came back fighting in the 12 to win the match.

    Again and I have said this in  previous posts  that I really wished I could know what my  potential  could have been  had I not been addicted to porn all those years  lets call it by my estimate  close to 20 000 hours of wasted time.  How many classes in something could I have taken to learn a new skill   The average apprentiship for a skilled trade is I believe about 8000 hours. the average  university degree is even less   add to that  the building of  some wealth through hard work   I could have probably been retired by now.  Again they say money shouldnt be a measure of success but my reasons for wanating  more are simple   I just dont want anyone controlling my life.    The same it seems goes for porn.    So Ashamed " No"  Bummed out  "Yes"   Conclusion  " Less bummed out each day"

   At the end of the day I am glad some are finding me an inspiration.  It is one of the reasons I continue to post here and not move to the success stories although  perhaps  it may be time to post in both   Just 90% of the posting will be here.  But the day will come when perhaps I do need to ride off into the sunset.  Ideally I hope that another warrior will step up to take  over  when that happens but for now the day is long and the sun doesnt appear to be setting yet.

    Cheers

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Re: quit for good
« Reply #430 on: May 18, 2020, 09:13:59 AM »
""What I am more ashamed or rather embarrassed) of is being part of a society  that  can put a man on the moon but cannot solve serious problems in our society  ie hunger   people having to live in debt, homelessness.""

I'd recommend not taking this burden on your shoulders. A lot can be said for simply being a good man. During my biggest depression, I was asked what the matter was; rather than focus on my life, I started with, 'I can't be part of a society that does all these awful things...' I won't go further into that, but I'm sure you can see faultiness there. You've probably heard of Russel Brand, an authentic guy who decided to use his celebrity to take on some real issues like homelessness; he went quite deep into the politics of it all, and finally left, bruised and battered, saying, 'I don't have the teeth to be in politics.'

I was mulling over the line you wrote in my thread - "" It seems we really do have a community here  that has become a great resource  I suppose an idea  to talk about is where else we can  find this community when the need arises  or even something  that can work in tandem with this one ""

and I also agree with the below line UK wrote:

I think the other thing that stands out with your journey is your decision to stay part of the community despite your considerable success. It would be intersting to know what happens to the members who historically have been active here, then drifted away. Have they overcome their addiction succesfully, or have they drifted back into their old ways because the journey was too hard for them at that particular time? For me, I think the biggest threat to my recovery would be not being here. It's a good daily habit that focusses me on the journey, and reinforces the connections with other like minded warriers. Long may it continue.



The answer is, I don't really know. I've been on 2 powerful forums over the last few years, and they were helpful, but the characters there gradually disappeared (and weren't replaced by other characters - I think it takes good timing for a bunch of mindful supportive guys to be on a forum). They said they'd succeeded, but they sounded beaten and cynical, with lines like, 'I'm doing good, but I really need to stay away from the internet,' so I think they were putting an encouraging spin on it, not admitting they were giving up.  I think my streaks suffered as a result. I contacted a couple of people from a forum by email, and that worked for a while, but they gave up.

As for a few of the 'success stories' (not all of them!), they were actually misleading. I remember one guy wrote (I'm sure he was well-meaning) - 'I made it to 90days! I did it! I've recovered. This is how i did it and these were my 5 tools...' This led me to believe 90days was the elixir. His 5 tools weren't the answer and I can't believe his problems were over forever; the addiction goes a lot deeper; which your journal shows.

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« Reply #431 on: May 18, 2020, 10:47:38 AM »
Day 161

            Things keep getting better each day  (a possible trigger here)  For the 6 years that I have had a hot tub in my yard  I often sat in it and fantasised  there was one particular jet that  was perfectly aimed  if you know what i mean  and many times i would edge against that jet while fantasising about everything sexual   Since Jan it became less and less frequent  when I hoped in the tub to  "use the jet" 
 many times I also thought about it but never bothered   Sat night and this morning it seems the  thought never even crossed my mind. untill I was about to get out  so I just  shut the jet right off as it seems it is in such a spot  that it really served no other perpose other than  would  really swirl the water when you had 4 or 5 people sitting in it  against all the other jets   I suppose it was an auxillery jet   I gave it further thought and   what I was thinking about in the tub and that was  if we are in a position to raise our mortgage payment  a little to take some years off the amortization.    Exactly what I feel I should be concentrating on.

 Joel  thanks for tuning in    I do hope this site stays active for a long time.  And I have noticed over the last 28 months I have been coming here that small communities do form  and than dissappear.  I think the problem was  there was not  a strong  member to  help push pull drag or whatever  the guys along  As it does seem that when someone claims victory  they tend to dissapear   I dont believe it to be that easy   I too think the problem is bigger than  gritting your teeth  for 90 days  and not viewing any porn   I think it is comming to the conclusion that you need to change your life in many ways  and once those changes are made I believe it will be easy to maintain  the new life  and any future improvments will be easier.

    As for the state of the world  UUGGHH    Its not a burden that I plan to put on my shoulders in any way.  I have children at home still and I feel its nost inmportant to teach them to become a part of any solution and not  a part of the problem.  Its a bit of a harsh reality but if we all tought our children that then in theory the problem should dissapear at some point in the future.   I really do subscribe to the fact that the rich usually get richer because the poor  and middle  class give the rich their money.  eg look at the price of concert ticktes  and sports tickets   Who needs a new mobile phopne every year   mine is 2 years old with a cracked screen   I plan to use it till  it doesnt work anymore.  And of course theie is porn  another multi billion dollar industry   Guess they wopnt be making any money off of me.   So some things are not going to change.

    Cheers

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« Reply #432 on: May 18, 2020, 06:50:48 PM »
Hiya Joe,   I'm glad you decided not to peek at porn at all.  For me that would be all she wrote--relapse city.
As far as becoming a success story pal, you already are.
But for purely selfish reasons I like having you around this forum.

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« Reply #433 on: May 19, 2020, 04:33:14 PM »
Day 162

     Back to work after 5 months off   Was quite surprised how well I handled the physicsl portion of the job   I guess my improved helathy lifestyle is paying off  Not much to say at the moment  but might be on later tonight

   Hope all are well

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« Reply #434 on: May 19, 2020, 04:44:40 PM »
Day 162 part 2

     Just came to a conclusion with  good valid reasons  that not  telling my wife  about my addiction and  fighting it  to success myslef  was 100% the right move.  So glad my concience is clear on that one

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« Reply #435 on: May 20, 2020, 05:45:40 AM »
Hi Joe - I am so pleased to read this. I sense that it is something you toil with from time to time and that in itself demonstrates the kind of guy that you are. I recall very clearly the completely non judgemental manner that you commented on my decision to share my struggle with my wife, but not the (chat) detail, which you may recall I felt both shamed of, and worried that it would hurt her. Like you, I am a firm believer that there are no rights and wrongs here in terms of partner disclosure and that every situation is different. What is right is that we are all here trying to move forwards. As I make such strong strides in my own recovery (day 46 today!), and my relationship with my wife goes from strength to strength (largely as I'm not a grumpy self centred porn warped ball of stress any more!), I do sometimes get the urge to tell her all - to get everything out in the open, to achieve congruence. However, when I really analyse my motivation, its selfish at heart - disclosure would make me feel better, but what would it do to her? I don't know for sure, but I don't want to risk it as I love her so much. So, I decide to keep quiet. There's nothing to gain (for her) and everything to lose. I satisfy myself that the battle I am winning is a greater victory than the loss or error of PMOchat. That's right for me - it may be different for others, and like you I respect that. What I will be clear about however is this... Now you have come to the realisation that your concience is clear, be happy, be proud and draw a line. You've come to the right conclusion. No need to revisit it again.

Day 162 part 2

     Just came to a conclusion with  good valid reasons  that not  telling my wife  about my addiction and  fighting it  to success myslef  was 100% the right move.  So glad my concience is clear on that one

   cheers


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« Reply #436 on: May 20, 2020, 06:59:09 AM »
Hi Joe!  Happy to hear that you are back on the job-don't overdo it and go too crazy the first few days!  Awesome on the 160 plus!!

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« Reply #437 on: May 20, 2020, 08:18:55 PM »
Day 163


     THanks for tuning in Jixu and UKGuy

                No I cant say as I have had any more thought of tempting fate   It was more to satisfy a curiosity  as to how I would feel seeing it again   but i dont think there is actually any value in in it   Work is going ok  I generally didnt mind my job  but the politics never end  so as I am 49 at the moment I figure 8-10 years and Ill be done and retired comfortably.  I must say with my health in far better condition  work is alot easier

    UkGuy   I took alot from more statement and it  actually makes a ton of sense.  I think I dwell on the topic a bit because  of what a partner has stated   on my  journal regarding the topic (basically disagreed  with my  decision)  but upon reading her journal recently  I was left with such conflicting  arguments  that it would not ever be worth anyones time for me to disclose as I have completely left  porn behind for good.  For those  who do disclose I would completely support them  for those who dont   I support them too  Everyone has a different story and a different  relationship dynamic

     Cheers

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« Reply #438 on: May 21, 2020, 04:28:18 PM »
Hey Joe,

First of all, 163 days is an incredible achievement! It shows in your posts; the level of maturity there is in dealing with past things, the things you still struggle with (whether or not to tell your wife) and the ability to just think about what it would feel like to watch porn, without having a strong urge.

Im pleased to read that you now 100% are behind your decision to not tell your wife. Especially because it's not for your own gain and wellbeing but for hers. It shows you've given it a great deal of thought and from what i read it has troubled you for quite some time! So congratulations. In the end we want to be better men, but also better husbands/partners and although some may call it being dishonest, i agree with you that telling her would not gain anything but you would risk losing all of it.

I do recognize the part of wanting to tell here just because you want to tell it to her, since she is your wife.. I recognize that feeling!


Anyway, great to see you've come so far!!!

I hope you will not be absent a lot after you feel like you've reached your goal and that you will provide support and insights for the fresh addicts!


P.S. What the hell do you do that allows you to retire at 57-59 !!! The prospect age for my retirement here in the netherlands is 69!!!!! (im 35 now, so it's still 34 years away lol)


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« Reply #439 on: May 21, 2020, 06:45:38 PM »
Hi Guys,  Day 0.  I know you guys aren't fair weather friends so I'm confessing that I relapsed today.
I also don't want to be a downer since you guys are really positive and kicking ass.
So I guess I'll just have to serve as a warning how ruthless and destructive this addiction can be.  Sorry if I let you down.
I can definitely use some tlc.  (The rest of my life is pretty darn good.)

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« Reply #440 on: May 23, 2020, 06:42:02 PM »
Day 166

           woke up early to nice sunshine  and a very quiet  morning  went for a 2 km jog   wieght is a nice reasonably healthy 218 lbs  still would like to lose another 10-15 lbs   These days I'm  not sure what to post   I can encourage people  but I am certainly not a councellor
     Its coming to the point where I am looking beyoned this site  for the next steps  in my moving forward. I will still be coming here  but
really have to think about what to say.  If anyone has specific   questions  I am sure I can have some sort of anser that might helps as I have gotten to almost 6 months  clean  andf dont have any urges and am not really affected by triggers.  So much more of my life is falling into place at the same time.

    Mr Slurps  sorry to here about your crash  It is after all a part of the process  I too have crashed a few times after having good runs  and each time I was able to take something away from it  and learn from it  till I had enough knowledge  to win the battle  So think hard about what might have caused your crash and begin a day   Do not feel guilty about it or that you have let any one  down   The only way we will feel let down is if you dont continue the battle

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« Reply #441 on: May 23, 2020, 08:13:09 PM »
Day 166 pt 2

   Damm it really does feel so good to know that I have kicked this  for good   35 years of it  and to quit  outright   almost like my dad having quit smoking afet 25 years   Now I get to be the man I always wanted to be   free and clear to persue some dreams  and goals

    cheers

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« Reply #442 on: May 24, 2020, 08:53:10 AM »
Hey Joe,

encouragement is all we need. No-one here is a licensed (as far as I know) therapist, psychologist or counselor. But we do understand each other.
And while we do not expect you to always be there for us since you have not much to post about anymore, we would certainly be happy to still have you among us to share your insights albeit it only every once in a while.

You are a valued member of this community and to see what you have accomplished for me is something that makes me happy.

However, the fact that you are looking beyond this site is no more than normal. This site is not meant to be forever, but a tool in your road to recovery.
Ultimately everyone here would be happy not to see you anymore because that means that you will have beaten the beast.


So, i think it's safe to say you accomplished something amazing and that you should be proud of yourself. I personally hope that you will tune in every once in a while to let us know that you're doing well; it's a great example for those of us that are not there yet.


Stay safe man!



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« Reply #443 on: May 25, 2020, 12:14:28 PM »
     Its coming to the point where I am looking beyoned this site  for the next steps  in my moving forward.

...
 dont have any urges and am not really affected by triggers.  So much more of my life is falling into place at the same time.



Despite you 'not having much to say', these are such great things to hear. I'm very interested in your journey at this point. I hit 5 months before but didn't quite replace porn with another 'passion', or quite let go of the idea of how good the PMO-high was, or the allure of certain bad things. I haven't found as much info on this period compared to the abundance of achieving those first 90 days. (I guess, post 90, it's dealing with life and non-porn problems, in our ongoing search for contentment).

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« Reply #444 on: May 25, 2020, 03:11:35 PM »
Hi Joe - I'm one of the many guys that disappeared from this forum and ended up falling off the wagon. I think a year or so ago we were maybe at similar points in our journey. I came back on this evening because I know I'm not happy with what im doing but I'm struggling to find the motivation to have another go at quitting.

Seeing your thread near the top of the page and reading about your success is really great - it gives me hope. Please keep posting if only occasionally.

I'm going to re-read my old threads to remind myself how low I got previously. I'm not as bad just now, but know I'm heading in that direction and there are inevitable conclusions unless I take action...

Thanks again
This is my old journal. Just I ever feel the need to read from start to finish.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=16467.0

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« Reply #445 on: May 25, 2020, 06:08:23 PM »
Hi Joe,  I'm getting back on track. (Day 4)  I'm also trying to get over this defeatist feeling and looking at you for a bit of inspiration.

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« Reply #446 on: May 25, 2020, 06:39:59 PM »
Day 168

               Things are still going good   weight is sort of bouncing between 218lbs and 221lbs  still looking to dump that last 15lbs or so  but it seems to be dragging itself.  I know I havent had much to post recently  but perhaps in time things will pop into my head.  I have just gone back to work after 5 months  so getting into the swing of things.  We are also looking at making a major business purchase that will  change our faninacial  situation  a little for the better  in the short term and a lot for the better for the long term  so  I'm a bit excited about it   Glad to see people are tuning in  on me   I do read pretty much all the journals  for the 1st half of the 1st page  although dont  have much time recently to post on things.  One of my worries about getting clean was losing interest in the site here   I am sure I will be here for quite some timwe  just might not be able to post on others journals as often  but I will try to keep mine  current   The best I can muster thses days is that life really is good without porn   Its not to say that porn is really evil or anything like that  but I found that I am a person who found other things that seem to be much more fufilling   Porn was something that always left me feeling empty afterwards  and I suppose that was the real reason that I wanted to give it up   I came to the conclusion that porn was  just a lazy attempt ast cheap  entertainment   or somthing to fill a  short term void.   Now it seems to be a what came 1st issue  the chicken or the egg   were these  voids created by porn  or did i use porn to eliminate the voids   Having gotten a clear skull  I have came to the comclusion that it was a bit of both   There were voids in my life 30-35 years ago andf I filled them with porn   after a while  it seems that the porn just created more voids   Now that all seems to be behind me  and I am working on both  the issues that  might have created the origional voids as well as working on my life  now in such a way that will keep my from alowing  any new voids to  slip into my life

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Re: quit for good
« Reply #447 on: May 26, 2020, 03:03:51 AM »
Hey Joe,


I agree that porn in itself is not evil, but i think you will agree that it has a bad influence on the sexual development of young people. We can all read the devastating effects it has on all of us.
Additionally, something that a lot of porn viewers will not want to know, is that the porn business in itself is pretty harsh. Terrible working conditions, extortion, emotional abuse, non-consensual acts. It is all pretty common.. With that in the back of your mind, would you still really enjoy the porn clip you are watching that if you see the woman (or man) and you know that she might not be working in the best conditions? 

Anyway, cheers man!
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« Reply #448 on: May 26, 2020, 05:18:39 AM »
Day 169

    Yes Shade totally agree with what you said there  Those are some problems that rerally need to be adressed  to really have an impact on society at large.  I'm sure porn could have its place in oiur society  but not in its present form

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Re: quit for good
« Reply #449 on: May 30, 2020, 08:35:40 PM »
Day 173

    Havent been around in a few days but all is good   Just been a really busy week    Hope youtr all doing well and I am sure I will have more to say before longh

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