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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #125 on: February 22, 2018, 04:23:03 AM »
Dear Playmoon.. I wish you well and thanks for your kind words.

You said ...."I'm scared that there is already a trend; guys loose out to girls from 15-16 years, and for my profession its now 70% women. I feel rather strongly about this, so I want to share this. Maybe the book could be released in more languages, and to make it more streamlined to read for younger people?"
...and this is true. Boys are not becoming men any more.

Sad but true.

Regards and wish you well.
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #126 on: February 22, 2018, 04:27:34 AM »
Dear RadishQueen...your fears are not to be feared.
PMO is unnatural. Sex and if you are single - masturbation ( when you have the real urge and from your own imagination) are natural.
Everything else will fall in place when live a natural lifestyle.
Cheers and wish you well.

Hi, I registered for this site just to ask these questions,

I found this site and this book through Reddit and I'm reading the book.
I've been reading with an open mind, but I'm halfway through the book and am noticing a lot of fear that wasn't there before starting to read. I'm pretty confident this book can help me quit, I just need to ask questions/get opinions about things from the author.

My Story: The summary
male PMOer since maybe 10? 9? Started with DVDs my dad left around the house. Am now 26 and am suspecting that PMO is holding me back from achieving the best things in my currently great life. My fear is that my whole personality may be founded on things I gained from PMO, and I am proud of who I am. I fear that, if I free myself from PMO I may change into the type of person I don't want to be. It just seems like the benefits listed in the book could all take positive things away from me.

The specifics: what I think quitting pmo will take from me.

My calm: I'm a relatively stoic guy. I've been said to exude calm and people tell me that I'm generally well liked because I am slow to anger and always have some method to calm my agitated friends/family. I fear that if I have more energy, I will become "peppy" and have to figure out a way to use that extra energy or lose my cool. It happens when I sleep more than 6 hours a night and I fear that being free of PMO have have the same effect. I'm hoping that I can be convinced otherwise.

My relations with women: I've come to a place where I'm not interested in putting in a lot of effort to be with a women, romantic relationships or sex. I never planned to get married, have kids, or have any form of long term relationship. I *do* value women as people and as my closest friends, and am willing to put forth efforts to spend time with my friends, male, female, or other. I am also willing to participate in sex as a show of affection for a woman who wants me in that way. I rarely orgasm when this happens, but I also rarely lose an erection. I still get the thrill of being intimate with someone, though, so its not as if Im an asexual. You might call me a demisexual? I fear that getting away from PMO will cause me to seek out women for sex, especially if I don't MO. I'm hoping that I can be convinced otherwise.

I have other personality traits that I think will be smashed by a lack of PMO but these 2 are the only ones that are giving me real pause. I feel like, if I can't maintain my lack of a sexual urge for women, then stopping PMO wouldn't really be worth it. Maybe one of you guys can help me deal with this?
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2018, 04:33:52 AM »
Dear dyrbr4719..
 .. we self-talk all the time.
After a long day we tell ourselves we 'deserve' a 'refreshing drink ' or ' an ice cold beer' when in fact all we need was a diversion or rest or something else.

But for an alcoholic it has to be a drink.

And his non-alcoholic friends would join him for a drink even if they really aren't wanting it.
The ads play this up if you noticed.

Cheers and wishing you luck.


"Here is another question - next time after a long day or some stressful incident can you consciously embellish your self-talk with ‘Do you know what I would really enjoy today ? The marvelous warm glow of dopamine rush going to my online harem’. You will find that even people who dislike PMO will join you."

Huh?  That made absolutely NO sense to me.  I have no idea what the author is even trying to say here.  See?  This is what I'm talking about.  There are so many passages in this book that I can't even make sense out of.  Why would people who dislike PMO join me if I embellished my self-talk with that sentence?
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2018, 10:49:24 PM »
Hey @le_petit_moster just wanted to pop in and say that I’ve been reading your book again over the past few weeks. I am about at the end and I feel I’m right on the verge on being able to quit porn for good.

I still get that feeling that I’m being deprived from time to time and I think it’s because of what you describe as seeing PMO as a placebo or that even though I know PMO is bad for and is doing nothing for me, if I think its helping me, then it will create the illusion that I’m enjoying it.

There’s also some other brainwashing that I still need to undo but I know that once I am able to do away with these I’ll be able to quit porn.

I might have re-read the book or at least a few chapters multiple times for things to really stick. I tend to forget some of the concepts when I make my attempt and revert back to old habits and thinking patterns.

Also, can you give some guidance on something. I’m someone who’s never really had a real girlfriend and I’m 27 now. I’ve had sex and hooked up with some girls but nothings really stuck. I also notice I can be very picky with women and I’m 50/50 on whether it’s porn related and porns just raised my standards too high.

Thing is, I’m very hard on myself for never having a serious relationship or not much female interaction in general and the older I get without it, the more I beat myself up. It’s hard for me to go after women since I tend to be quite shy at first (which I have been working on and is getting better).

I feel like sometimes I make too big a deal of it and I wish I didn’t care so much because it really tends to take a beating on my self-esteem especially around other guys who brag or talk about having sex/dating, etc.

I just wonder why is it so hard for me and it seems to be so easy for everyone else.

It’s hard to decipher if it’s the years of porn use that’s messed me up or if it’s just my low self-confidence and my tendency to be shy.

I think it might be a combination of both. What are your thoughts on it?

Also another brainwashing that I have is that since I’ve been a porn user for so many years (about 15) I have these thoughts that since I’ve been PMOing for so long, it’s going to be impossible to ever quit.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 10:59:56 PM by BruceWayne »

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« Reply #129 on: March 28, 2018, 12:28:08 PM »
Be excited. It has come to my attention that my original conversions into EPUB and MOBI frankly suck quite bad. Plus it seems at least one of the download links has broken.

I am working on updating this both for the formatting and the changes that le_petit_monster has made during the past year (!!!) since I original copied this over. Stay tuned over the next few weeks...

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #130 on: April 12, 2018, 01:30:10 AM »
Hello le_petit_monster

I've registered here just to say thank you for writing this. My previous attempt while my most successful still failed as I kept thinking that I was depriving myself. I would have thoughts of "Oh wow, I'm never going to watch porn again" while now it's replaced with a feeling of "I'm so happy I'm never going to watch it again". Truly breeds success I'll tell you. But what I want to thank you most about this method is that it takes away the power images had on you. On my previous attempts I would see a picture which would not be even half provocative and feel urges but after reading the hackbook when pictures like that show up I can just scroll past.

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2018, 03:56:42 PM »
I cannot express how thankful I am for your book, thanks to it I think I've finally been able to quit porn but I am finding quitting masturbation to be a bit harder - I think I might still be addicted to masturbation because I feel compelled to do it and don't even enjoy it.


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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2018, 05:40:01 AM »
Hello everyone,
I'm new on the forums here, but I'm in my 4th year of nofap.
I also see the warning above, that this topic hasn't been posted for at least 120 days, so I know this thread is "a bit dusty". Anyway, it makes more sense to post here and revive the thread, as it is SO HELPFUL imho.


Dear le_petit_moster,
I can't thank you enough for hacking and sharing this ebook.
I had quite a bumpy ride the last 3 years until people at NoFap Forums pointed out the Allen Carr method to me, and then - a now good friend - hinted me at this thread with the book in the beginning of 2018.

I had the same idea to adapt the AC book to PMO as the parallels were straggering, when I read the AC book the first time in the end of 2017. I also asked the AC company, if they would be interested, but they declined and even prohibited me from adapting the Allen Carr's work. I can't imagine, that Allen Carr would approve such a behaviour of his company.
So it is SUPER GREAT that you already did this and share it for free !
(I ofc didn't mention it to the AC company, after I found the hackbook)

I started a thread about the hackbook on nofap, but there was some opposition in the forums and last month my thread was closed my a mod (as it was considered advertising/self-promotion).
So I registered here and I hope were can discuss the topics here more freely.
I'm quite disappointed of the situation at nofap forums and I now just don't unterstand their obsession with the "challenges" - it is SO counter productive !

I also decided to modify/reformat the ebook, as the formatting of the epub is brocken on my kindle. (Sentences are randomly split and it makes reading and focusing on the content really hard). I'll make the last changes in the next weeks and upload it here, if it's ok.

I hope I'll get the contents of the nofap thread at least, and then I'll post them here, as I found there are some differences which we need to adress to improve the method for PMO.

Update:
Ok, I don't know, when I'll make the final reformattig, so I'll post the intermediate version here, I hope it's useful. (See changelog inside, content is the same, just formatting is improved - but still has some last formatting flaws ...)
https://www1.zippyshare.com/v/FWsG4SGr/file.html

Hi all. Here is a "hackbook" of a Method that does NOT ask you to use 'Willpower' (which I think is ineffective). It is based on a very successful method and I am confident you will see results. Cheers. https://sites.google.com/site/hackbookeasypeasy/home

...

Check it out. I guarantee you results based on my experience. Cheers!!!
Feedbacks at ...
http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/...quit-smoking-method-to-use-to-quit-pmo.36712/
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

The first link at yourbrainrebalanced is broken, btw.

Cheers and THANK YOU SO MUCH again !
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« Reply #133 on: November 02, 2018, 06:59:48 AM »
I had a relapse tonight, approximately 10 days after reading the book. Immediately after relapsing, I could feel my mind trying to convince me again that I am an addict, and that I am doomed to fall back into the addiction. However, thanks to some helpful quotes from the book, I've managed to fight off those thoughts, and I'm feeling very positive right now. That being said, I've decided that I'm going to read through the book again, just to be safe.

I've been a slave to this addiction for about 27 years, and I've had more than enough! My attitude right now is this: "I don't care if I have to read this book another 10 times through, I'm done with this addiction!" I think this is the right attitude for anyone who reads this book, and finds themselves in a relapse situation.

The fact of the matter, is that this book erases all of the brainwashing caused by the addiction. Therefore, if anyone who has read this book should relapse, and again find themselves brainwashed into feeling "trapped," all they need to do is read the book again, and the brainwashing will once again be erased. The truth is the truth, and the truth will always set us free, but only when we believe it!

I'm very thankful to the author of this hackbook, and to the person who directed me to it!

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« Reply #134 on: November 03, 2018, 04:44:06 AM »
I've been struggling to understand why I relapsed yesterday. After all, I read the EasyPeasy Hackbook, front to back, and I was thoroughly convinced that I was a non-PMOer for life. Yet somehow it happened anyway. But thankfully, I found a great quote that explains why:

“Fatigue makes cowards of us all.”
― George S. Patton Jr.

I was very sleepy that night. In fact, on a previous day, I chose to go to bed early, even though I had things to do. But on the night of the relapse, I was fighting to stay awake, because I had things I needed done. Somehow, I accidentally fell asleep for about a half-hour, and when I woke up, ready to take care of my tasks, it was like all sense had left my mind. I just wasn't thinking clearly. I was acting on impulse. Clearly, fatigue made me a coward to the impulse, I had no fight in me. If I had been wide-awake, I would have mentally dismissed all of the non-sense in my mind. But because I was half-asleep, I wasn't able to reason my way out of it.

As for tonight, I'm doing excellent! I'm convinced that even though I relapsed, that it did not make me a PMOer again. If a life-long non-PMOer suddenly one night had a PMO session, for whatever reason, it would not be fair to say that this person suddenly became a PMOer. Nor would it be fair to say that if a non-alcoholic had a few too many drinks tonight, that they are now an alcoholic. So indeed, it is possible for a non-PMOer, and a recovered PMOer, to PMO, and not have the session change their identity. The key to everything is to defeat the brainwashing, to not let the brain convince us that because we relapsed, therefore we must be slaves once again. And of course, the key to defeating the brainwashing, is the truths revealed in the book. I'm holding on to those truths for dear life, and I'm feeling alright!
« Last Edit: November 03, 2018, 04:46:25 AM by EasyPeasyNonPMOer »

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« Reply #135 on: November 07, 2018, 01:27:47 AM »
 I just faced one of the most trying 24 hour periods of my entire life! All I can say is: Thank God I'm not a PMOer any more! I don't know if I would have had the strength, or mental stability to make the choices I had to make, if I had been PMOing like before.

 Certainly, if I had been PMOing recently, women would not have been as kind to me as they were yesterday and today.  I've noticed that because I love women, and because I'm a non-PMOer now, even if they don't want to be my girlfriend, they are generally extra-kind to me. It's an interesting thing... I try to be humble about it. I don't want to expect special treatment. I worry that if I do expect it, that women will notice and I won't get it. But who knows, maybe I should expect it?

 I am having some thoughts about PMO. But this true statement has reassured me: "Non-PMOers DON'T need a reason to NOT PMO." They just don't do it, because PMO is of no interest to them. I am a non-PMOer now also, so I DON'T need a justification to NOT go down that road.

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« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2018, 03:29:47 PM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

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« Reply #137 on: November 08, 2018, 03:35:10 PM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

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« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2018, 03:41:55 PM »
So it's essentially just REBT, right?

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« Reply #139 on: November 17, 2018, 01:18:01 AM »
So it's essentially just REBT, right?

I'm not sure what REBT is exactly.

Over time, our minds brainwash us into believing we get a benefit from PMO, and that we lose out by not having it in our lives. NoFap doesn't address this brainwashing ever, which is why people fail NoFap again and again. Obviously, if you believe you are giving up something that secretly benefits you, it is going to be difficult. The book works by purging this brainwashing. The book convinces us that we get NOTHING out of PMOing, because we really don't! We get NO pleasure, and NO benefits. When we see PMO as completely unappealing, rather than as something special that we are "giving up," suddenly quitting should become a joy, and not a pain.
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« Reply #140 on: November 17, 2018, 01:39:39 AM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

The book isn't perfect. No professional editors have been paid to review the text.

I doubt that anything important is missing.

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« Reply #141 on: November 17, 2018, 07:13:10 AM »
 I've PMO'd three times since I finished reading the book, and I've MO'd one time. Despite this, I've also been absolutely determined that I am going to stop this addiction once and for all.

 After my first 'post-reading' PMO, I decided I needed to go through the book again. The problem is that I didn't have the time or patience to read it again. Therefore, I began looking for a 'Text-to-Speech' application, that I could use to read the book aloud to me. I found a free application for linux called 'espeak.' Using espeak, I have been able to have the book repeatedly read to me. Whenever I am at home, working on my computer, I listen as espeak reads the book to me.

 Since I began listening to the book, I've noticed that some additional brainwashing has been purged from my mind. Despite this, I still managed to PMO 2 more times, and MO 1 time. But I haven't given up, nor have I become discouraged.

 Yesterday, on the way home from work, I began to think about how ludicrous it is that I should PMO, just because I'm wasting time on Youtube. How silly this is, when I know full well that PMO does nothing for me, and is utterly unappealing! It really makes no sense. If PMO does nothing for me, wasting time on Youtube should not prove tempting.

 When I got home, I went on-line and found no temptation. I then took a nap. While napping, I kept dreaming about the topic. While I can't recall the exact details of the dreams, I know that they were related to the absurdity of finding PMO tempting, while at the same time knowing it does nothing for me.

 At this moment, I feel I'm on my way to a breakthrough. It seems that because of my stubborn persistence, that the last of the brainwashing is breaking. I sense that I'm on the way to truly finding quitting easy. It's time to listen to the book some more!
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