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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #125 on: February 22, 2018, 04:23:03 AM »
Dear Playmoon.. I wish you well and thanks for your kind words.

You said ...."I'm scared that there is already a trend; guys loose out to girls from 15-16 years, and for my profession its now 70% women. I feel rather strongly about this, so I want to share this. Maybe the book could be released in more languages, and to make it more streamlined to read for younger people?"
...and this is true. Boys are not becoming men any more.

Sad but true.

Regards and wish you well.
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #126 on: February 22, 2018, 04:27:34 AM »
Dear RadishQueen...your fears are not to be feared.
PMO is unnatural. Sex and if you are single - masturbation ( when you have the real urge and from your own imagination) are natural.
Everything else will fall in place when live a natural lifestyle.
Cheers and wish you well.

Hi, I registered for this site just to ask these questions,

I found this site and this book through Reddit and I'm reading the book.
I've been reading with an open mind, but I'm halfway through the book and am noticing a lot of fear that wasn't there before starting to read. I'm pretty confident this book can help me quit, I just need to ask questions/get opinions about things from the author.

My Story: The summary
male PMOer since maybe 10? 9? Started with DVDs my dad left around the house. Am now 26 and am suspecting that PMO is holding me back from achieving the best things in my currently great life. My fear is that my whole personality may be founded on things I gained from PMO, and I am proud of who I am. I fear that, if I free myself from PMO I may change into the type of person I don't want to be. It just seems like the benefits listed in the book could all take positive things away from me.

The specifics: what I think quitting pmo will take from me.

My calm: I'm a relatively stoic guy. I've been said to exude calm and people tell me that I'm generally well liked because I am slow to anger and always have some method to calm my agitated friends/family. I fear that if I have more energy, I will become "peppy" and have to figure out a way to use that extra energy or lose my cool. It happens when I sleep more than 6 hours a night and I fear that being free of PMO have have the same effect. I'm hoping that I can be convinced otherwise.

My relations with women: I've come to a place where I'm not interested in putting in a lot of effort to be with a women, romantic relationships or sex. I never planned to get married, have kids, or have any form of long term relationship. I *do* value women as people and as my closest friends, and am willing to put forth efforts to spend time with my friends, male, female, or other. I am also willing to participate in sex as a show of affection for a woman who wants me in that way. I rarely orgasm when this happens, but I also rarely lose an erection. I still get the thrill of being intimate with someone, though, so its not as if Im an asexual. You might call me a demisexual? I fear that getting away from PMO will cause me to seek out women for sex, especially if I don't MO. I'm hoping that I can be convinced otherwise.

I have other personality traits that I think will be smashed by a lack of PMO but these 2 are the only ones that are giving me real pause. I feel like, if I can't maintain my lack of a sexual urge for women, then stopping PMO wouldn't really be worth it. Maybe one of you guys can help me deal with this?
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2018, 04:33:52 AM »
Dear dyrbr4719..
 .. we self-talk all the time.
After a long day we tell ourselves we 'deserve' a 'refreshing drink ' or ' an ice cold beer' when in fact all we need was a diversion or rest or something else.

But for an alcoholic it has to be a drink.

And his non-alcoholic friends would join him for a drink even if they really aren't wanting it.
The ads play this up if you noticed.

Cheers and wishing you luck.


"Here is another question - next time after a long day or some stressful incident can you consciously embellish your self-talk with ‘Do you know what I would really enjoy today ? The marvelous warm glow of dopamine rush going to my online harem’. You will find that even people who dislike PMO will join you."

Huh?  That made absolutely NO sense to me.  I have no idea what the author is even trying to say here.  See?  This is what I'm talking about.  There are so many passages in this book that I can't even make sense out of.  Why would people who dislike PMO join me if I embellished my self-talk with that sentence?
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

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« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2018, 10:49:24 PM »
Hey @le_petit_moster just wanted to pop in and say that I’ve been reading your book again over the past few weeks. I am about at the end and I feel I’m right on the verge on being able to quit porn for good.

I still get that feeling that I’m being deprived from time to time and I think it’s because of what you describe as seeing PMO as a placebo or that even though I know PMO is bad for and is doing nothing for me, if I think its helping me, then it will create the illusion that I’m enjoying it.

There’s also some other brainwashing that I still need to undo but I know that once I am able to do away with these I’ll be able to quit porn.

I might have re-read the book or at least a few chapters multiple times for things to really stick. I tend to forget some of the concepts when I make my attempt and revert back to old habits and thinking patterns.

Also, can you give some guidance on something. I’m someone who’s never really had a real girlfriend and I’m 27 now. I’ve had sex and hooked up with some girls but nothings really stuck. I also notice I can be very picky with women and I’m 50/50 on whether it’s porn related and porns just raised my standards too high.

Thing is, I’m very hard on myself for never having a serious relationship or not much female interaction in general and the older I get without it, the more I beat myself up. It’s hard for me to go after women since I tend to be quite shy at first (which I have been working on and is getting better).

I feel like sometimes I make too big a deal of it and I wish I didn’t care so much because it really tends to take a beating on my self-esteem especially around other guys who brag or talk about having sex/dating, etc.

I just wonder why is it so hard for me and it seems to be so easy for everyone else.

It’s hard to decipher if it’s the years of porn use that’s messed me up or if it’s just my low self-confidence and my tendency to be shy.

I think it might be a combination of both. What are your thoughts on it?

Also another brainwashing that I have is that since I’ve been a porn user for so many years (about 15) I have these thoughts that since I’ve been PMOing for so long, it’s going to be impossible to ever quit.
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« Reply #129 on: March 28, 2018, 12:28:08 PM »
Be excited. It has come to my attention that my original conversions into EPUB and MOBI frankly suck quite bad. Plus it seems at least one of the download links has broken.

I am working on updating this both for the formatting and the changes that le_petit_monster has made during the past year (!!!) since I original copied this over. Stay tuned over the next few weeks...

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« Reply #130 on: April 12, 2018, 01:30:10 AM »
Hello le_petit_monster

I've registered here just to say thank you for writing this. My previous attempt while my most successful still failed as I kept thinking that I was depriving myself. I would have thoughts of "Oh wow, I'm never going to watch porn again" while now it's replaced with a feeling of "I'm so happy I'm never going to watch it again". Truly breeds success I'll tell you. But what I want to thank you most about this method is that it takes away the power images had on you. On my previous attempts I would see a picture which would not be even half provocative and feel urges but after reading the hackbook when pictures like that show up I can just scroll past.

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« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2018, 03:56:42 PM »
I cannot express how thankful I am for your book, thanks to it I think I've finally been able to quit porn but I am finding quitting masturbation to be a bit harder - I think I might still be addicted to masturbation because I feel compelled to do it and don't even enjoy it.


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« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2018, 05:40:01 AM »
Hello everyone,
I'm new on the forums here, but I'm in my 4th year of nofap.
I also see the warning above, that this topic hasn't been posted for at least 120 days, so I know this thread is "a bit dusty". Anyway, it makes more sense to post here and revive the thread, as it is SO HELPFUL imho.


Dear le_petit_moster,
I can't thank you enough for hacking and sharing this ebook.
I had quite a bumpy ride the last 3 years until people at NoFap Forums pointed out the Allen Carr method to me, and then - a now good friend - hinted me at this thread with the book in the beginning of 2018.

I had the same idea to adapt the AC book to PMO as the parallels were straggering, when I read the AC book the first time in the end of 2017. I also asked the AC company, if they would be interested, but they declined and even prohibited me from adapting the Allen Carr's work. I can't imagine, that Allen Carr would approve such a behaviour of his company.
So it is SUPER GREAT that you already did this and share it for free !
(I ofc didn't mention it to the AC company, after I found the hackbook)

I started a thread about the hackbook on nofap, but there was some opposition in the forums and last month my thread was closed my a mod (as it was considered advertising/self-promotion).
So I registered here and I hope were can discuss the topics here more freely.
I'm quite disappointed of the situation at nofap forums and I now just don't unterstand their obsession with the "challenges" - it is SO counter productive !

I also decided to modify/reformat the ebook, as the formatting of the epub is brocken on my kindle. (Sentences are randomly split and it makes reading and focusing on the content really hard). I'll make the last changes in the next weeks and upload it here, if it's ok.

I hope I'll get the contents of the nofap thread at least, and then I'll post them here, as I found there are some differences which we need to adress to improve the method for PMO.

Update:
Ok, I don't know, when I'll make the final reformattig, so I'll post the intermediate version here, I hope it's useful. (See changelog inside, content is the same, just formatting is improved - but still has some last formatting flaws ...)
https://www1.zippyshare.com/v/FWsG4SGr/file.html

Hi all. Here is a "hackbook" of a Method that does NOT ask you to use 'Willpower' (which I think is ineffective). It is based on a very successful method and I am confident you will see results. Cheers. https://sites.google.com/site/hackbookeasypeasy/home

...

Check it out. I guarantee you results based on my experience. Cheers!!!
Feedbacks at ...
http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/...quit-smoking-method-to-use-to-quit-pmo.36712/
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0

The first link at yourbrainrebalanced is broken, btw.

Cheers and THANK YOU SO MUCH again !
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« Reply #133 on: November 02, 2018, 06:59:48 AM »
I had a relapse tonight, approximately 10 days after reading the book. Immediately after relapsing, I could feel my mind trying to convince me again that I am an addict, and that I am doomed to fall back into the addiction. However, thanks to some helpful quotes from the book, I've managed to fight off those thoughts, and I'm feeling very positive right now. That being said, I've decided that I'm going to read through the book again, just to be safe.

I've been a slave to this addiction for about 27 years, and I've had more than enough! My attitude right now is this: "I don't care if I have to read this book another 10 times through, I'm done with this addiction!" I think this is the right attitude for anyone who reads this book, and finds themselves in a relapse situation.

The fact of the matter, is that this book erases all of the brainwashing caused by the addiction. Therefore, if anyone who has read this book should relapse, and again find themselves brainwashed into feeling "trapped," all they need to do is read the book again, and the brainwashing will once again be erased. The truth is the truth, and the truth will always set us free, but only when we believe it!

I'm very thankful to the author of this hackbook, and to the person who directed me to it!

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« Reply #134 on: November 03, 2018, 04:44:06 AM »
I've been struggling to understand why I relapsed yesterday. After all, I read the EasyPeasy Hackbook, front to back, and I was thoroughly convinced that I was a non-PMOer for life. Yet somehow it happened anyway. But thankfully, I found a great quote that explains why:

“Fatigue makes cowards of us all.”
― George S. Patton Jr.

I was very sleepy that night. In fact, on a previous day, I chose to go to bed early, even though I had things to do. But on the night of the relapse, I was fighting to stay awake, because I had things I needed done. Somehow, I accidentally fell asleep for about a half-hour, and when I woke up, ready to take care of my tasks, it was like all sense had left my mind. I just wasn't thinking clearly. I was acting on impulse. Clearly, fatigue made me a coward to the impulse, I had no fight in me. If I had been wide-awake, I would have mentally dismissed all of the non-sense in my mind. But because I was half-asleep, I wasn't able to reason my way out of it.

As for tonight, I'm doing excellent! I'm convinced that even though I relapsed, that it did not make me a PMOer again. If a life-long non-PMOer suddenly one night had a PMO session, for whatever reason, it would not be fair to say that this person suddenly became a PMOer. Nor would it be fair to say that if a non-alcoholic had a few too many drinks tonight, that they are now an alcoholic. So indeed, it is possible for a non-PMOer, and a recovered PMOer, to PMO, and not have the session change their identity. The key to everything is to defeat the brainwashing, to not let the brain convince us that because we relapsed, therefore we must be slaves once again. And of course, the key to defeating the brainwashing, is the truths revealed in the book. I'm holding on to those truths for dear life, and I'm feeling alright!
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« Reply #135 on: November 07, 2018, 01:27:47 AM »
 I just faced one of the most trying 24 hour periods of my entire life! All I can say is: Thank God I'm not a PMOer any more! I don't know if I would have had the strength, or mental stability to make the choices I had to make, if I had been PMOing like before.

 Certainly, if I had been PMOing recently, women would not have been as kind to me as they were yesterday and today.  I've noticed that because I love women, and because I'm a non-PMOer now, even if they don't want to be my girlfriend, they are generally extra-kind to me. It's an interesting thing... I try to be humble about it. I don't want to expect special treatment. I worry that if I do expect it, that women will notice and I won't get it. But who knows, maybe I should expect it?

 I am having some thoughts about PMO. But this true statement has reassured me: "Non-PMOers DON'T need a reason to NOT PMO." They just don't do it, because PMO is of no interest to them. I am a non-PMOer now also, so I DON'T need a justification to NOT go down that road.

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« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2018, 03:29:47 PM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

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« Reply #137 on: November 08, 2018, 03:35:10 PM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

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« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2018, 03:41:55 PM »
So it's essentially just REBT, right?

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« Reply #139 on: November 17, 2018, 01:18:01 AM »
So it's essentially just REBT, right?

I'm not sure what REBT is exactly.

Over time, our minds brainwash us into believing we get a benefit from PMO, and that we lose out by not having it in our lives. NoFap doesn't address this brainwashing ever, which is why people fail NoFap again and again. Obviously, if you believe you are giving up something that secretly benefits you, it is going to be difficult. The book works by purging this brainwashing. The book convinces us that we get NOTHING out of PMOing, because we really don't! We get NO pleasure, and NO benefits. When we see PMO as completely unappealing, rather than as something special that we are "giving up," suddenly quitting should become a joy, and not a pain.
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« Reply #140 on: November 17, 2018, 01:39:39 AM »
the chapter 3-22 speaks of the supposed chapter 28. but ends in 3-23. someone who has finished it could tell me why?

The book isn't perfect. No professional editors have been paid to review the text.

I doubt that anything important is missing.

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« Reply #141 on: November 17, 2018, 07:13:10 AM »
 I've PMO'd three times since I finished reading the book, and I've MO'd one time. Despite this, I've also been absolutely determined that I am going to stop this addiction once and for all.

 After my first 'post-reading' PMO, I decided I needed to go through the book again. The problem is that I didn't have the time or patience to read it again. Therefore, I began looking for a 'Text-to-Speech' application, that I could use to read the book aloud to me. I found a free application for linux called 'espeak.' Using espeak, I have been able to have the book repeatedly read to me. Whenever I am at home, working on my computer, I listen as espeak reads the book to me.

 Since I began listening to the book, I've noticed that some additional brainwashing has been purged from my mind. Despite this, I still managed to PMO 2 more times, and MO 1 time. But I haven't given up, nor have I become discouraged.

 Yesterday, on the way home from work, I began to think about how ludicrous it is that I should PMO, just because I'm wasting time on Youtube. How silly this is, when I know full well that PMO does nothing for me, and is utterly unappealing! It really makes no sense. If PMO does nothing for me, wasting time on Youtube should not prove tempting.

 When I got home, I went on-line and found no temptation. I then took a nap. While napping, I kept dreaming about the topic. While I can't recall the exact details of the dreams, I know that they were related to the absurdity of finding PMO tempting, while at the same time knowing it does nothing for me.

 At this moment, I feel I'm on my way to a breakthrough. It seems that because of my stubborn persistence, that the last of the brainwashing is breaking. I sense that I'm on the way to truly finding quitting easy. It's time to listen to the book some more!
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« Reply #142 on: November 22, 2018, 11:38:36 AM »
Since my last post, I've viewed porn four times. Two of those times I also masturbated. But the great news, is that I managed to walk away all four times without an orgasm! This is great news, although viewing porn four times was obviously less than ideal.

The reason why, I believe I was able to walk away four times without an orgasm, is primarily because of the book. I believe it's mostly because the book has cleared the brainwashing out of my mind. But also, I believe this was due to my increasing determination to stop this habit.

I think I have to disagree with original author, Allen Carr, and the hack-author, le_petit_moster, that willpower is not required. By suggesting that willpower is not needed during the withdrawal period, I feel I was set up to fail. It's true that if my life was wonderful and full of activities, that I could probably just keep my mind busy, and thereby avoid thinking about PMO. However, my life is dull, and I end up sitting in front of my computer alone far too often. Then, when sitting at my computer alone, my brain seems to want to keep checking my Youtube recommendations, to see if anything 'risque' appears. Ultimately, I've given in to temptation now four times, simply because I was not passionately determined to exert self-control while on Youtube.

The book does talk about whether or not to avoid temptation, but it's really not a practical possibility for most people to avoid the PMO temptation, unless they plan to go on an off-grid camping trip, or are not crafty enough to find nudity despite a porn-blocker. For me, because I have investments to manage, I simply cannot go off-grid. Also, isn't taking steps to avoid temptation somewhat akin to using will-power?

So, all things considered, I've come to a conclusion. I conclude that, once the brainwashing is cleared out of our heads, that willpower becomes possible. Whereas, without first clearing the brainwashing, willpower is hamstrung. Now that I've cleared the brainwashing out of my head, and am convinced that there is no way for me to succeed other than the hard way, I am passionately determined to discipline myself to stop this addiction once and for all.
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« Reply #143 on: November 23, 2018, 12:04:50 AM »
I personally skipped around to the chapters I was the most interested in reading. To be honest, I relapsed maybe a few hours ago and was getting withdrawal pangs. I used some of the ideas in the book and I notice a fairly immediate difference. I know you suggest not stopping until you finish reading the book, but I was never one to follow rules.

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« Reply #144 on: November 25, 2018, 11:22:49 PM »
I personally skipped around to the chapters I was the most interested in reading. To be honest, I relapsed maybe a few hours ago and was getting withdrawal pangs. I used some of the ideas in the book and I notice a fairly immediate difference. I know you suggest not stopping until you finish reading the book, but I was never one to follow rules.

 The book is full of truth. Our minds are full of lies. One reading is probably not going to do it for most people, IMO.

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« Reply #145 on: November 26, 2018, 12:05:12 AM »
 I feel the need to post an update on my experience thus far.

 I know what the "Little Monster's" cravings feel like. As the author(s) describe: "...an empty insecure feeling started by the first visit to an online porn site and perpetuated by every subsequent one..." It's definitely not the same feeling as the "withdrawal pangs" caused by the brainwashing. It feels to me like an anxiety-filled craving. I don't think I've ever been able to distinguish this feeling so clearly as I am now. This tells me that I've purged so much of the brainwashing, that I'm now able to feel my brain's dopamine cravings. They are not fun, but obviously aren't as bad as the "Big Monster" cravings.

 The past few days were really easy. I was feeling that "Little Monster" craving, but I was avoiding giving in to it with little difficulty. Still, it was alive. It hadn't left me. I also clicked on a racy music video on Youtube. Thankfully it was just a still image, and not a series of clips, but still, seeing what I saw can only serve to keep the Little Monster alive.

 Then this morning, I PMO'd. I was experiencing frustration over my lack of success towards my financial goals. I was also feeling like dating, and by extension sex, was a long way off for me. I felt I don't have the time for dating, nor the money. I also was disappointed with my confidence level, which was not improving much day to day, despite me not having had an orgasm for quite some time, and not having viewed porn for several days. I kept expecting better interactions with women, yet I was not up to the task emotionally. Despite all this, I knew that PMOing wasn't going to help with these things. I knew it wouldn't solve anything. I knew it wouldn't provide any relief, or boost. Despite all of the brainwashing related to supposed benefits of PMO, I knew that it wouldn't help, yet I PMO'd anyway.

 As a result of today's PMO session, I now recognize why the hack-author felt it necessary to talk so much about amative sex. Initially, I supposed that it was just filler, or that it was representative of a certain perspective on sex, and that I could take it or leave it. Now, I realize that it was added because a large part of quitting PMO, is about accepting the fact that we may no longer be having regular orgasms. Somehow I've missed absorbing a lot of what the hack-author was saying, probably because I just didn't think it was relevant.

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From the book: "Phase 1: How can I survive without PMO?
This fear is that panicky feeling the PMOer gets when they are alone in a single phase or have
an asexual, uninterested or unavailable partner. The fear isn't caused by withdrawal pangs but is the
psychological fear of dependency - you cannot survive without sex and orgasm. It actually reaches
its height when you are on the verge of quitting (I won’t use giving up); at that time your
withdrawal pangs are at their lowest. It is the fear of the unknown, the sort of fear that people have
when they are learning to dive.

 You see, I have this mistaken belief that PMO, or MO, somehow compensates for me not having regular sex. It's as though I think, "I'm not getting sex, but I'm still seeing naked people, and having orgasms, so while it's not as good, at least I'm getting something." But this is just another level of brainwashing. Thankfully, I think it's some very base-level brainwashing, which means I'm getting through to the end of it. Anyway, the point is that a large part of this process is accepting that it might be a long time before I see a naked woman again, and it might be a long time until I orgasm again. Facing this reality is difficult, but only because of the brainwashing. The belief that PMO gets us "closer to sex" than not PMOing, is false. PMO actually takes us further away from having sex. PMO makes us less attractive to the opposite sex. Truly, stopping PMO will make us more attractive, and if we are more attractive, our chances of having an orgasm, and seeing a naked woman, increase. Therefore, in order for me to fully walk away from PMO, I need to use the book to help me purge the brainwashing that suggests that PMO is a substitute for sex, because it's not.

The idea that wrapping your hand around your member, and beating it off, somehow gets you closer to having sex than you would be by being celibate, is a big-fat-filthy lie!
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« Reply #146 on: November 28, 2018, 02:35:45 AM »
 I'm so incredibly sad right now...  :'(  I PMO'd again...

 I PMO'd despite me believing that I've purged all of the brainwashing (Big Monster.) I know that PMO does nothing for me. I know that orgasms are not necessary. I've even been telling myself repeatedly that I'm content with not having orgasms. I really don't think that there is any more brainwashing to clear out... I've listened to the book from beginning to end, at least a dozen times, probably more. :(

 I think it's just the "Little Monster" and my "Habitual Responses" that are causing the problem. I don't know what to do about them. I'll be sitting at my computer, feeling bored, depressed, or frustrated, and even though I know PMO does nothing for me, I go down that same old road.

 The hack-author does mention an exercise that I have not tried:

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Refer Maxwell’s book “The New Psycho Cybernetics” Ch 12. Get this mental picture clearly in your mind, for it can be quite helpful in overcoming the power of external stimuli to disturb you. See yourself sitting quietly, letting the phone ring, ignoring its signal, unmoved by its command. Although you are aware of it, you no longer mind or obey it. Also, get clearly in your mind the fact that the outside signal in
itself has no power over you, no power to move you. In the past you have obeyed it, responded to it, purely out of habit. You can, if you wish, form a new habit of not responding. Also notice that your failure to respond does not consist in doing  something, or making an effort, or resisting or fighting but in doing nothing - in relaxation from doing. You merely relax, ignore the signal, and let its summons go
unheeded. The telephone ringing is a symbolic analogy to any and every other outside stimulus you might habitually give control over to and now choose to very intentionally alter that habit.

 Other than that, I'm not sure how I'll proceed...

 Previously, I summarized the book into four steps, though I didn't post them here:

#1 - Clear the brainwashing
#2 - Make the decision to stop.
#3 - Have absolute faith that you will succeed.
#4 - Rejoice always.

 Perhaps I'm too focused on the "Little Monster" and that's why I keep failing. Perhaps I'm also failing on #3.

 The book says repeatedly that "it's ridiculously easy to quit PMO." I agree that it should be.
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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #147 on: December 16, 2018, 02:24:27 PM »
I just found this "guided meditation" on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8_ENeZ2x28&ab_channel=JasonStephenson-SleepMeditationMusic

It fits right in with the hackbook's teaching, that fear is the reason we stay trapped.

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« Reply #148 on: January 27, 2019, 09:24:21 PM »
Incredible.

I almost dropped this book when it insisted on reading *every* chapter. The writing isn't the best, there have been instances when I had to reread a paragraph to understand the message. Despite my initial reservations, I pursued because the book was free. If money was involved, these claims of "no willpower" "instantaneous results" and other incredulous claims would have turned me away. It didn't and so I dove in.

What a journey it was.

I still can't get over how simple the solution is. I thoroughly enjoyed very much on how the author characterized big monster and little monster. I visualize the big monster as a shapeshifter that casts illusions. It is dangerous because it doesn't need the little monster to survive, all it needs is a smote of faith that PMO has a beneficial component. When that poor man inevitably PMO's again the small monster is resurrected and the shackles are donned once more.

Reading this book provided the antitoxins, exercises, and CONFIDENCE to eradicate that mind virus. I PMO'ed while reading this book, the more I read, the more self conscious I was. There was a point I was so desperate to finish the book because I wanted to be liberated from that existential pain. Before I declared I quit, I had doubts. Not in the material though.

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I am worried my declaration will be insincere. Doubt keeps the big monster alive. I am afraid of riding the current (toward a life without PMO). Stepping into the unknown. I feel that I won't be the same person. I am reluctant to abandon this drug-addled form. I don't know the future, I don't know where this new me will lead.

This is what I know. This new me WILL NOT BE A FUCKING PORN ADDICT!! That alone is worth the transformation.

It has been 10 days so far. I report not so much elation but confusion. I've been triggered multiple times (stressful day at work, apartment to myself, etc) and every time I feel that dopamine craving (little monster) however there is no push from the mind virus (big monster) to indulge. I always respond "I don't do that." "I'm not an addict.""Thank god I'm not wasting my time anymore."  I use to mentally fight these cravings like its pro wrestling but now I knock them aside with minimal force. My dread of relapse is slowly evaporating because these triggers are becoming less virulent. At least so far.

I think this second and third week will be the real test though. Allegedly there will be a moment I will experience a "revelation" much like Dufrane escaping prison in Shawshank Redemption. I'm not expecting it but I can't entirely deny it either. Is it the moment when the little monster dies without the big monster's necromantic magic?


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Re: A EasyPeasy method NOT based on WillPower.
« Reply #149 on: February 07, 2019, 07:44:36 PM »
I love this book and I wish it was more popular among the nofap/noporn communities. The "willpower method" is such sentimental, ego-driven nonsense. It might be a relic of this stupid "puritan work ethic" that is so pervasive in western societies.

People think quitting porn must involve struggle and hardship, blood and tears, but after persistence and "force of will", the cravings will magically go away. It's no wonder the failure rate is above 99%.
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