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Do I have to restart my timer from Sept 1st? Have I ruined my recovery again? Can someone plz give me some info on this action cause I really feel shitty about it. Its been years since I was able to beat 3 weeks and I finally made it 29 days.

No one can know if you've ruined your recovery, you have to gauge this yourself. It's hard to really know of any progress early in recovery as well. My advice would be to still stay away from all intentional orgasms for a few months until you do start to feel some significant libido.

The number one thing is to stay away from porn. An orgasm every few months or once a month might not hurt you but I don't recommend it especially if you have a bad case of PIED and I still highly suggest you stick to hard mode.

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Porn Addiction / Re: Great presentation by Gary Wilson
« on: July 05, 2019, 06:08:44 AM »
I had my testosterone level checked last week and all is 'normal'. Same for cortisol and a full blood test.

But this doesn't mean anything, it could mean that the testosterone is converting to something els.


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Porn Addiction / Re: Great presentation by Gary Wilson
« on: July 04, 2019, 07:44:00 AM »
Not quite, unfortunately.

No Porn since August 2017 - yes. (no temptation for it whatsoever)
But MO is quite different. I've been MOing recently. I  did go through 2 or 3 spells of 3 months hardmode and most recently a 6 month spell hardmode.

Unfortunately during the 6 months spell, I experienced negative effects that made me go back to MO. For example, I feared my testosterone level were reducing due to the lack of sexual 'action' (ie,  even eradicated sexual thoughts during that time). I felt too feminine. Plus, my fat levels around the hips, buttocks and legs are increasing day by day now - usually it is women that have fats on that area, not men! So it's seems being on  NoFap has made my brain more female! And, frankly, I hate it - not lease because of this bizarre condition that I have at the moment were unexplained fat gain in the lower body is happening everyday.

DepressedAndOut when you gain fat....you gain fat all over your body. Nofap doesn't have the power to change your hormones that much, that's nonsense.

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Posts like this are what this forum doesn't need.

I think the very fact that we go through flatlines is enough evidence that recovery is totally possible. The flatline is your brains last mechanism to stop itself from damaging itself anymore, at least that is how I see it. If you're able to MO or even PMO then I don't think the damage you've done to yourself is permanent. Neuroplasticity is a scientific fact now, if your brain didn't do it I don't think you could even be alive right now.

You've only been doing this for 2 years now, this guy recovered after 3 years https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php?threads/finally-over.24924/ , this guy needed more than 2 years as well https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-cold-hard-truth-2-years-rebooting-1-5-years-no-porn.11567/.

During your 6 month hardmode reboot did you not see any progress? I also believe you said you were MO'ing everyday after you did that reboot, I wouldn't recommend doing that. If you did your research on these forums you'd know that you can't keep having orgasms after a reboot, I can show you many examples on here why that is.

If you feel that rebooting is not helping you then why not get yourself checked out by a doctor? If you don't have anything wrong with you physically, then your only other option is to keep abstaining until you are back to normal. It's really that simple.

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At least 3 months. But I havent watched porn at all. A while ago I hade wet dreams but not anymore

Try these two methods out. Over the next few months try and limit your orgasms, only have sex if you feel like you can. If you have to force an erection, don't do it. After a few months if you feel like you aren't making progress I'd say try and abstain from all intentional orgasms for at least 6 months. 

6 months was the only thing that's done it for me, but even then you still need to limit your orgasms after the 6 months.

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whats the longest you've gone without orgasm?

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I wouldn't do it. Any intentional orgasm will throw you back until you finally get out of the total flatline.

On the other hand, don't I have to wait until my dick gets hard without ANY physical stimulation?

^ Yes that is how a proper erection should be. Keep abstaining until you fully get out of the flatline. And when i say fully out of flatline i mean when you stop going in and out of flatlines.

Can orgasm throw you into flatline?

Yes, completely. How have you not known this Scorpion, you've been on here for 3 years lol. You can't gauge that on your own?

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Hey Redfire your posts have helped me alot and have kept me from relapsing many times so i just want to say thank you. How do you know you still have ED? What progress have you seen? Do your erections stay when you stand up? I would just keep going for a few more months.

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Thank you both for your replies.

@Guts, I agree that an intentional orgasm would possibly throw me back. That's why I didn't cum. I simply enjoyed the feeling and knew there wouldn't be an orgasm. Do you still think this is "bad" behaviour?

Yes, I do. You need a complete break from any stimulation. You could have come very close to orgasm, I wouldn't risk it.

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I wouldn't do it. Any intentional orgasm will throw you back until you finally get out of the total flatline.

On the other hand, don't I have to wait until my dick gets hard without ANY physical stimulation?

^ Yes that is how a proper erection should be. Keep abstaining until you fully get out of the flatline. And when i say fully out of flatline i mean when you stop going in and out of flatlines.

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if you want to keep having PIED then jerk off all you want. If you want to get rid of PIED, abstain from everything including sex.

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Sounds like PIED to me. What is the longest you have gone in total abstinence? Going 6 months with just no porn won't do anything, you need to go full hard mode.

How does one go Hard Mode?

..all you have to do is not jerk off, not have sex, and not look at porn......

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Sounds like PIED to me. What is the longest you have gone in total abstinence? Going 6 months with just no porn won't do anything, you need to go full hard mode.

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it still sounds like PIED to me. I'd say just keep abstaining from everything. Any intentional orgasm for me sends me back.

Thanks for the replies guys.  "Guts" how long have you been at this?  Have you seen any progress?


Thanks again!

I've been trying to recover from this for the last 7 years constantly relapsing and never getting anywhere. Only till now, I'm just about at 5 months and seeing the most progress ever and feeling really, really good.

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it still sounds like PIED to me. I'd say just keep abstaining from everything. Any intentional orgasm for me sends me back.

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Do you get regular morning wood? 60-90 days didnt do much for me.

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Man that really sucks. What medical condition do you have? Hard mode is the only way I can recover. It looks like this guy has seen some progress http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=15970.0

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Has anyone heard of someone healing where it takes them 5 years or longer when they have never relapsed, mo'd, fantasized etc?

Are you doing complete hard mode? No sex?

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