a number of prolonged relapses after quitting porn for 3.5 years

hanso

New Member
Hi,

my (33, male) story in a few points is:

- watched porn since my late teens til my late 20's pretty much daily and ended up with rather severe PIED
- then quit porn for 3.5 years, which gave me great erections again
- relapsed for 7 months
- rebooted for 1 month
- relapsed for 2 months
- rebooted for 3 months
- relapsed for 12 months up until today
- the plan is obviously to quit again

My main point of interest is if you guys think that the benefits from my long reboot of 3.5 years are pretty much lost - i.e. will another complete reboot likely take as long as the first one. I can't recall exactly how long it took back then, but I reckon the flatline alone took way over 6 months. I assume all in all it took like 2 years or so.

I know that everybody is different, but maybe someone here has had a similar experience and is willing to give some insights.

 

mousemat1

Well-Known Member
Like you say, everyone is different.

I've rebooted several times. Each time it's taken longer to heal. But that's just me. You did 3.5 years! That's one hell of an achievement. You did it once before, you can do it again.

I wish you luck!
 

Relentless Observer

Active Member
I do not know the answer, but I hope it does not take as long to recover this time.
Clearly, you have lived recovery a few times and I hope you can truly commit yourself to abstinence from porn from here on out and remain recovered.
Good luck.
 
hanso said:
Hi,

my (33, male) story in a few points is:

- watched porn since my late teens til my late 20's pretty much daily and ended up with rather severe PIED
- then quit porn for 3.5 years, which gave me great erections again
- relapsed for 7 months
- rebooted for 1 month
- relapsed for 2 months
- rebooted for 3 months
- relapsed for 12 months up until today
- the plan is obviously to quit again

My main point of interest is if you guys think that the benefits from my long reboot of 3.5 years are pretty much lost - i.e. will another complete reboot likely take as long as the first one. I can't recall exactly how long it took back then, but I reckon the flatline alone took way over 6 months. I assume all in all it took like 2 years or so.

I know that everybody is different, but maybe someone here has had a similar experience and is willing to give some insights.

How is your situation in regards to PIED right now?
 
hanso said:
Thanks for the encouragement and nice words.

With regards to my current situation - it's a lot different than prior to my first reboot. Back then I was mostly fapping with a super weak EQ. The type of erections that quickly vanish when you stand up and walk a few steps. I recall I wasn't even able to keep it up while standing up and measuring it. Further, real-world sexual encounters were pretty much a failure in 95% of the cases. It's certainly not that severe right now (though I haven't been with a woman for more than a year). During PMO my EQ is quite good, but I wouldn't try it with a real partner as the much lesser level of stimulation will likely result in me not getting/keeping it up. All in all compared to the time after my first reboot, it's much worse though.

After my last reboot (the one for three months), I felt already a strong interest in sex again. I also didn't experience a real flatline during that time - at least not a significant one. However, I then met with women pretty much every other day for a month and quickly ended up with a lower libido and EQ again. Maybe it was just too early back then and I needed a little more time.

I am aiming (and really hoping) for that I will reach a state comparable to the one after my first reboot in roughly 1-1.5 years from now. Having to wait another 2.5-3.5 years would make me really upset, as I am not the youngest anymore. But yeah, time will tell.
It is, however, also a little difficult for me to retrospectively pinpoint when it got better during the 3.5 years. Also, two main factors might have contributed to it taking longer than necessary. First was that I dieted with a huge caloric deficit for 6+ month (didn't eat more than 1200-1500 calories while being 6.1" and weighing 90kg and running/training 4-5 times a week). This, I guess, was pretty devastating for my endocrine and metabolic system and took me quite long to bring back to normal. I also didn't engage in any real-world sex during all that time. This led to some level of performance anxiety, which then makes it even harder to gauge if your back to normal again or not. I recall that I once went to a brothel and realised that I was shaking. Sounds ridiculous, but that's how it was.

Finally, I have one experience that others might find useful. It's based on the assumption that the benefits you get by abstaining from PMO at some point turn into the opposite.
20 months into my first reboot I went to see an endocrinologist in order to check my hormone levels. During our conversation we also chatted about EQ in general and he mentioned that one contributing factor for the decline of EQ in elderly men is that the nocturnal erections get less frequent. During these nocturnal erections oxygen and nutrients are transported into your D in order to protect the tissue from damage. This damage, i.e. scarring, then leads to a less optimal bloodflow which in turn leads to less nocturnal erections etc.
When I heard that, I thought that the state in which I was (low libido, no sexual activity whatsoever, no morning-wood or when I happend to wake up during the night) actually wasn't too different from that of an elderly man. So I started doing kegels for 15-30 min a day and took 5mg tadalafil before going to bed. I don't recall how long it took, but after some time I started to get morning-wood almost every day and it stayed like that even after quitting tadalafil again. That served somewhat as a kickstart and then the resteventually fell into place.

EDIT: I want to mention that I don't encourage anyone to take pde-5-inhibitors (regularly) prior to consulting a doctor. Also, the loss of EQ with age can come from myriad other sources like cardiovascular issues, obesity, etc. Nonetheless, I once read a study which found that men who had, on average, two sexual encounters per week, had a ~50% decrease in the likelihood to experience erectile dysfunction compared to a group of men who seldomly engaged in sex. So there might be some truth to the 'use it or lose it' phrase.

Waiting 1.5 years to see if something improves is too long and it wouldn't assure you that just by waiting you'll recover, PIED + performance anxiety is something that needs to be worked on. It's good that you got some morning woods, those are good symptoms, now you have to walk further this path, it seems to me you are not really confident about your sex skills, am I right? Do you think you're not the love you want to and this is making you be insecure which aggravates your performance anxiety?
 

Arantxa

Member
I realize that one relapse does not stunt the entire process. I have made a lot of progress in the past couple of days and I will continue with that as long as stick to the challenge and don?t go on a binge. I will now go for a walk, take a shower and then reset my badge and continue with more determination and discipline than ever before. I am stronger than this. I will not break.?
 
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