98 Days pmo free

Fishy

Member
98 days pmo free... 1 year porn free... 1 year of on and off reboots

I'm starting to think that I'm better off accepting the fact that I have erection problems. The day I accept that fact I can start living with it. Get a girlfriend who is satisfied with oralsex and hand jobs. Masturbating without porn as much as I want. (More porn seems stupid cause I know this can get worse). Not having to think about if my dick is going to work, instead I know my problems and can embrace them. Perhaps become the worlds best pussy licker.

I had a girlfriend 3 months back who accepted my problems and we had a four month nice relationship. Giving each other hand jobs instead of sex. I was happy. But I decided that it wasn't enough. So then I decided I had to dump her and do a SERIOUS reboot. Now I have done almost 100 days and I'm asking myself how many days I should go? Will this ever get better, and if it does get better does it really go back to a normal state or can I relapse to porn for a month and have to do another 200 days reboot?

I'm getting depressed for not knowing facts. I don't know how many days I have to go pmo free. I don't know when I'm cured. I don't know if I'm ever going back to normal.

What if I start masturbating again, will this undo my progress or just slow it down?

Is it better to be at day 150, having masturbated 10 times to orgasm or beeing at day 100 with masturbation. No porn in either scenario.

But will I get happier if I start masturbating again? I have no clues.

Any input is appreciated!
Thanks guys
 

Fishy

Member
I had a lot of morning wood (strong) at around day 60. Now it's like very weak morning wood. yes I can get an erection by my hand, quite strong but fading fast.

Low libido.

Erections were very strong while watching porn.
 

Bibbity

Active Member
It took my husband 9 month of rebooting and then 2 months abstaining from orgasms to get his erections back.  I can say that it took a year and a half for his libido and testosterone to get back to normal as well.  It takes a long time.  I understand that 100 days seems like a lot but it's really not when you compare how many days you spent forming this neural pathway.  Its only roughly 4 months.  Your habit was formed over years and years. 

Hang in there :)
 
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Mart71

Guest
So then I decided I had to dump her and do a SERIOUS reboot.

It pains me to read this. Having a girlfriend is probably the best thing to have during a reboot in my opinion. Rebooting and abstaining is fine and (probably) important, but the active rewiring to and with a real partner is where the magic happens - again in my opinion.

 

Fishy

Member
@ Bibbity
Im at like 8 months rebooting now with the last 100 days abstaining. I hope i'm soon back to where I can enjoy normal intercourse and I understand it can take very long. Though I'm concerned I will never come back to COMPLETLY normal.

@Mart71
Well I tried abstaining myself together with her. But laying in a bed with a woman I feel comfortable with makes me touchy -> horny -> sex. And I couldn't accept the fact that my dick was not working so I wanted the fastest way to recovery. Might have been stupid but from where I were emotionally, I still think it was the right choice at the time. To be honest it also gave me motivation, every time Im at the point of relapse I think to myself "I didn't dump her for no reason, lets stop this".
 

Bibbity

Active Member
So sorry, I completely misread that!  You are doing great and I'm sure it will be better for you soon.  Unfortunately I do agree with Mart71 that she would have been very good for you to rewire.  Abstaining without rewiring is useless IMO.  It sucks to be horny and not have sex but that is rewiring.  Touching, kissing, cuddling.  It's the whole point.  Your dick should be taken out of the equation altogether when you have PIED.  Learn other skills and rewire!
 

Viper

Well-Known Member
Mart71 said:
So then I decided I had to dump her and do a SERIOUS reboot.

It pains me to read this. Having a girlfriend is probably the best thing to have during a reboot in my opinion. Rebooting and abstaining is fine and (probably) important, but the active rewiring to and with a real partner is where the magic happens - again in my opinion.


You actually dumped a girl in a new relationship that accepted your ED?
You must have some serious confidence with the ladies bro-
In my world, if the woman is experienced and I can't go deep inside, she will bounce!
If it's an existing relationship, that's different. The woman staying is not as big a deal as
a new girl accepting it from the start.

I don't blame you for being frustrated. I was and everyone on this forum is.
But I think you want a magic number from someone to say that on day such-and-such,
your dick will be re-vitalized. How old are you?

Did you see any doctor/urologist to see if it isn't something else going on?
Before I committed to the reboot, I saw my family doctor, then a Urologist, and
finally a therapist. They did very little for me. I did get dick pills from the doctor
but it didn't cure me. One time, it didn't work at all and those jokers are expensive!

You should look at PIED just like smoking. We all should know by now there are repercussions
from years of smoking. But not every gets the same bad symptoms. And even if they do, they
may get it at different times. Some will get throat cancer after like 30 years of smoking.
Others will get lung cancer. Hell, even non smokers who suffered years of second hand smoke
can get sick, even die but the time table is scattered.

I mean, you said you were willing to accept a limp dick forever. What else have you done to try
to fight this?

By the way, depression, frustration, and the like are all part of the reboot. Keep posting your thoughts, I find
that therapeutic.
 

Fishy

Member
"You actually dumped a girl in a new relationship that accepted your ED?"

Yeah. I wasn't happy so why would I stay. Doesn't matter if I will get a new girl or not.

Perhaps a visit to the doctor is in order but I hate doctors. I mean honestly I think google is better than the average doctor, not only regarding PIED but other things as well.


Anyway let's have some update about my life instead.

Im no longer on 100 days. Got a blow job this morning from a girl who I have been dating for like 1,5 weeks now, this was the second time and I came. Felt really nice and I gave her two orgasms by mouth and hand as well. Wierd part about this is that we gave each other oral sex now on two diffrent occasions and none of us even showed any interesst in vaginal sex. I mean I guess it's just a question of time but with my Ex, the one I dumped, we failed sex 3 times or something before really talking and accepting the fact I couldn't do it.

I can't tell if I was hard enough for vaginal sex this morning but my best guess is I wasn't. However I'm planning on keep seeing this girl and most likely it will result in a lot of orgasms. Do you have any tips regarding if I should try really hard to limit the times I have an orgasm (This will limit the sexlife as well) or just have fun as long as I'm with her and not really care?
 

Viper

Well-Known Member
want to know what i really think?
If not, I can offer a scaled down opinion by saying you
should avoid porn, PMO, and M whenever you can.
 

Fishy

Member
Of course I want to know what you really think, else why am I here?

For me porn is out of the question. I don't need it, I don't think about it, I don't even want it. What I do want though is not having to think about how many times I orgasm when I'm dating someone. At this very moment I'm sexting with the girl (I guess that's bad just as it is). I want to have phonesex right now. I want to have an orgasm.

I would like to be convinced that even if I orgasm many times a week with this girl (No porn or on my own) I'm still on the course to healing, maybe not the fastest one, but still on the right way.
 

Bibbity

Active Member
Have orgasms with a real person and with your hand to sensation alone.  No phone sex or sexting, no artificial stimulation basically and you'll be fine!
 
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Mart71

Guest
Fishy said:
Of course I want to know what you really think, else why am I here?

For me porn is out of the question. I don't need it, I don't think about it, I don't even want it. What I do want though is not having to think about how many times I orgasm when I'm dating someone. At this very moment I'm sexting with the girl (I guess that's bad just as it is). I want to have phonesex right now. I want to have an orgasm.

I would like to be convinced that even if I orgasm many times a week with this girl (No porn or on my own) I'm still on the course to healing, maybe not the fastest one, but still on the right way.

In my reboot, I didn't follow some of the usual (good) advise for a reboot. I had sex early, I forced erections, I used ED drugs. The reason was being in a new relationship after a really long time without a gf and I did not want to lose her. Kind of desperate there...

Long story short, going against recommendations did not "kill me", but I am sure progress was slowed down compared to a reboot, where you do everything that is recommended. But I walked my own path and got good progress with time.

You will have to find out, if what you want to do gives you progress. I stopped phone sex, I still have trouble masturbating without porn and phone sex is too similar to masturbation. I limit my orgasms, because I get libido flatlines from "too many, too often". My body cleary tells me to what I can do and what I can't, therefore I would recommend you listen to your body. But keep in mind, that I am not a devout follower of all the teachings on how to do a reboot - I just think, that many paths can give you progress, as long as you stay away from porn of course.
 

Fishy

Member
Yesterday was a good day.

I slept with the girl again, this time we had intercourse. It worked. I was actually surprised. It felt really good that I was able to penetrate her even though I wasn't rock hard, but it was no more than decent. Still it was the first time in two years I have decent vaginal sex.
 

Vincent

Active Member
Although many forms of ED have a physical background for Men under the age of (mostly) 45 ED usually is psychologically based. If you think there is something wrong with your overall circulation, your NO production or an increased PDE-5 production you should do some research on this matter and consult a physician.
But usually the main reason for performance anxiety and ED that follows up is the constant thinking done on the matter. Mybe porn is not the only problem in your case so you should try to find out, what exactly is your status.
To say that you have to accept things as they are is not wrong. But only and ONLY if you really mean it. And honestly: If I am convinced of something I do NOT write it into a forum asking others' opinions. Therefore I do not think that your conviced by what you wrote either.
Let us know if we can help further and do not give up. There is no such thing as "no progress" in rebooting your brain because every action leads to a consequence! Everybody is able to reboot if they really want to.
 
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