ED that doesn't seem to quite fit "PIED"

Hey everybody,

I experienced ED starting in 2016 (actually probably before that, but I wasn't having sex for quite some time, so I was not aware of it until I started a new relationship and SURPRISE!) and I did research and discovered the "PIED" and "nofap" concept shortly after.

I could go through the long version of the story, but what I am wanting in this post is to see if anyone else has identified with the following traits that don't quite seem to fit the "PIED" model. I'd like to know if anyone has experienced these AND more importantly, if you've successfully recovered from it:



Viagra works for me (this seems to indicate a physical issue rather than brain issue, but the doctor says "I'm fine" physically and there are a lot more complicated details that I won't go into here)

I have not gotten an erection when viewing porn in a LONG time (it doesn't happen) BUT when I DO get a "spontaneous erection" (no touching) it happens with the woman I'm currently seeing (it's a long distance relationship- I find I can sometimes get erections when I'm WITH her AND just from interacting with her from a distance). This seems to be the opposite of what I typically read (can get erections with porn, but not with a real person). It's worth noting that even when I do get one though, I can only sustain it for a few minutes at the most.

looked at porn for YEARS (about 20) with ZERO problems. I could get hard with porn, I could get hard with my partner... no problems whatsoever (again, this seems different than most stories I read)

I don't experience any of the "positive affects" when abstaining. I don't feel more energy, more confident, more alive...none of that. Granted, I've only gotten to about 60 days with no sexual release (my lady friend and I see each other about every 1-2 months, so I'm usually having sex before the 90 days are up)

There are several other things as well, but I've looked into EVERYTHING I can find and nothing really seems to "fit." I'm losing hope and wondering if maybe it isn't "PIED" after all....

Still, I don't find porn to be a great use of my time, so I'm actively avoiding it regardless. It would sure be nice to have some hope of a solution though. If anyone identifies with anything above and has recovered or made progress, please let me know. Thanks!

Do you get regular morning wood? 60-90 days didnt do much for me.

"regular"?  No.  But it DOES happen... sometimes weak... rarely strong (but occasionally).  It DOES seem to follow a particular pattern when I go without release for a period.  Something like (off the top of my head)

morning 1: nothing
morning 2-3: semi
morning 4-6: dead
morning 7: hard as a rock
then around day 8 or 9 I tend to flatline for a couple/few weeks
After about a month, it's semis, sometimes dead... and it stays like that up to 60 days (that is as long as I've gone with no sexual release)

The first time I have sex, it's generally completely limp.  She "makes it happen" (I sometimes cum without even getting hard once... weird) then after I cum once, I'll usually have moments of being semi-hard.... but when we do a lot of foreplay, I lose it... and it won't come back.  What gets me the HARDEST is just laying next to her in bed.  Touching her... or just THINKING about her... but it's REALLY on or off.  Sometimes I can touch her and NOTHING... other times, just a thought and I'm there... but it goes away REALLY fast.

Thanks for asking!  Any input or similar stories with success at the end are appreciated.

Don't get worked up on days. Just know to never turn back. I am right at a year in my reboot and it will never be over. I am still not healed and I don't expect myself to be yet. I just focus on never turning back and bettering myself.

it still sounds like PIED to me. I'd say just keep abstaining from everything. Any intentional orgasm for me sends me back.

Guts said:

it still sounds like PIED to me. I'd say just keep abstaining from everything. Any intentional orgasm for me sends me back.

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Thanks for the replies guys.  "Guts" how long have you been at this?  Have you seen any progress?


Thanks again!

chaosbrain44 said:

Guts said:

it still sounds like PIED to me. I'd say just keep abstaining from everything. Any intentional orgasm for me sends me back.

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Thanks for the replies guys.  "Guts" how long have you been at this?  Have you seen any progress?


Thanks again!

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I've been trying to recover from this for the last 7 years constantly relapsing and never getting anywhere. Only till now, I'm just about at 5 months and seeing the most progress ever and feeling really, really good.

I'm having a very very familiar situation with you!!! No feelings while watching porn. But when somebody I am interested in gives me a blowjob can get me semi-hard for a while.

I've been looking for someone with a similar situation. I struggle with this as well. I stopped looking at pornography for almost two years before relapsing. But in that 2 years I still had erectile dysfunction the entire time. Sometimes I would be able to maintain an erection most of the time I wouldn't. Most of the time I would ejaculate without getting hard, which frustrates both of us. Irregular morning wood. Recently, after finding this , I realized that I traded a Porn addiction for a masturbation addiction. Even though I wasn't looking at P I was still masterbating 2 to 3 times a day. So now I am rebooting again. Only this time I am totally abstaining from P and M. I told my wife about everything and she agreed to even abstain from sex for 30 days  because I have relied for so long on that sexual release that maybe it would be best to teach myself not to rely on it. I'm on Day 26, and I feel silly at this is so difficult. But, the fact that this is difficult makes me feel like I'm on the right track. Not sure if this helps.