the question is simple,can i fap if I'm quitting porn and recovering from trans fetish? im in 20 day without masturbation and porn,I Have a girlfriend,I had sex with her and came just one time,the rest of the time I abstained from reaching climax,can I masturbate like once a week? can I come during sex? what should I do? pls help ( I suffer from delayed ejaculation a bit of hocd and trans fetish,I want them to disappear,Delayed ejaculation is mostly gone)
Can i masturbate if I'm recovering to porn induced trans fetish?
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nofap is for life not just during reboot. Its basically a porn substitute and there are no porn substitutes for porn addicts.
With sex, you should go hard mode first 3 months. Any type of O can set you back or prolong the reboot at this point so try to limit it or eliminate it completely for the first few months. You can be more flexible with this, its not like masturbation, you will definitely be able to have sex so its more flexible regime but still very helpful thing to cut off completely.
With sex, you should go hard mode first 3 months. Any type of O can set you back or prolong the reboot at this point so try to limit it or eliminate it completely for the first few months. You can be more flexible with this, its not like masturbation, you will definitely be able to have sex so its more flexible regime but still very helpful thing to cut off completely.
Yes, you can masturbate. However, you have to decide for yourself if that is the best thing for your reboot. My advice would be to only have sex and avoid M, especially for the first few months of your reboot. This is from our Basics of Rebooting page:
"To masturbate, or not to masturbate, that is the question"
As stated, we have only two "rules': 1) Stop using artificial sexual stimuli, and 2) Do what works for you. Many guys have discovered it is helpful to eliminate or drastically reduce masturbation/orgasm during a reboot. Possible reasons to drastically reduce or eliminate masturbation during a reboot:
1. If you have porn-induced ED, your brain is saying: "I can't do this anymore". Understand that your urge to masturbate is not true libido - you are addicted to porn, or your sexuality is conditioned to pixels. If you need porn to masturbate, or have a partially erect penis when you do, you are not horny or in need of "release". You are addicted and seeking a fix: a temporary dopamine high.
2.The majority of men with porn-induced ED need to drastically reduce masturbation and orgasm. When you have a pathology, you usually need to do more than just eliminate the cause - in this case porn use. You don't generally break a leg by putting weight on it. However, once it's broken you have to cast it, use crutches and eliminate walking while you heal. Same goes for porn-induced ED. You don't have to wear a cast, but you need to give your brain time to heal, free of intense sexual stimulation.
Masturbation and porn use are tightly wired together. Like Pavlov's dog that salivated when it heard the bell, you will start drooling for porn when masturbating. Time is needed to weaken the neural connections intertwining wanking and watching.
Recovery may be easier without masturbation/orgasm. Remove masturbation/orgasm from the equation and most guys experience a sharp decline in sexual desire, we call the flatline. (See: "HELP! I quit porn, but my potency, genital size, and libido are decreasing")
When you also eliminate orgasm/masturbation, not just porn, it seems to precipitate a more complete and deeper withdrawal, and thus healing.
Masturbation and orgasm strongly reactivate cravings to use porn. It has been surprising to witness that most men have an easier time eliminating masturbation than they do porn. For most guys with porn addiction, masturbation is simply not that interesting without porn, and they are amazed to discover that porn, not their libido, was driving their constant search for relief.
Caveat: All the above is based on the current feedback given to us by successful rebooters. It is subject to change.
Caveat 2: Some guys with porn-induced ED need to orgasm in order to jump-start their brains after a reboot or extended flatline
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For more information regarding the Basics of Rebooting, check out our video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4yx4ouxGbQ
"To masturbate, or not to masturbate, that is the question"
As stated, we have only two "rules': 1) Stop using artificial sexual stimuli, and 2) Do what works for you. Many guys have discovered it is helpful to eliminate or drastically reduce masturbation/orgasm during a reboot. Possible reasons to drastically reduce or eliminate masturbation during a reboot:
1. If you have porn-induced ED, your brain is saying: "I can't do this anymore". Understand that your urge to masturbate is not true libido - you are addicted to porn, or your sexuality is conditioned to pixels. If you need porn to masturbate, or have a partially erect penis when you do, you are not horny or in need of "release". You are addicted and seeking a fix: a temporary dopamine high.
2.The majority of men with porn-induced ED need to drastically reduce masturbation and orgasm. When you have a pathology, you usually need to do more than just eliminate the cause - in this case porn use. You don't generally break a leg by putting weight on it. However, once it's broken you have to cast it, use crutches and eliminate walking while you heal. Same goes for porn-induced ED. You don't have to wear a cast, but you need to give your brain time to heal, free of intense sexual stimulation.
Masturbation and porn use are tightly wired together. Like Pavlov's dog that salivated when it heard the bell, you will start drooling for porn when masturbating. Time is needed to weaken the neural connections intertwining wanking and watching.
Recovery may be easier without masturbation/orgasm. Remove masturbation/orgasm from the equation and most guys experience a sharp decline in sexual desire, we call the flatline. (See: "HELP! I quit porn, but my potency, genital size, and libido are decreasing")
When you also eliminate orgasm/masturbation, not just porn, it seems to precipitate a more complete and deeper withdrawal, and thus healing.
Masturbation and orgasm strongly reactivate cravings to use porn. It has been surprising to witness that most men have an easier time eliminating masturbation than they do porn. For most guys with porn addiction, masturbation is simply not that interesting without porn, and they are amazed to discover that porn, not their libido, was driving their constant search for relief.
Caveat: All the above is based on the current feedback given to us by successful rebooters. It is subject to change.
Caveat 2: Some guys with porn-induced ED need to orgasm in order to jump-start their brains after a reboot or extended flatline
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For more information regarding the Basics of Rebooting, check out our video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4yx4ouxGbQ
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Do you masturbate though? Does Noah Church masturbate? Can you share a link of a recovered porn addicts with PIED, who still masturbates? Does Mark Queppet masturbate? Does anybody with a face masturbate after recovering from PIED?Gabe Deem said:
@Johnny Trailer, Occasionally, yes - without porn. Went several years without M'ing at all, but now every once in a while I do. Although, I'd still personally advise peeps to stay away, especially during a reboot, most of the time I do it to fight pre-mature ejaculation and take it slow and focus on sensation.
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Thanks man this is what I asked you in private message some time ago but I understand you are busy or never seen it to answer it. I never hear from anyone who actually recovered from PIED who still masturbates without some withdrawal symptoms coming back, chaser effect, some sexual dysfunction symptoms or things like that. So I always went with my experience which is pretty bad with MO. I was 8 months nofap with occasional sex (successful or just attempt) before I tried that soft grip, sensation only etc. Withdrawal symptoms, PIED, chaser effect... everything came back stronger than before and I relapsed 2 months later (PMO). So its possible, that is refreshing to hear. Okay so I probably just fapped several years too soon. It was so disastrous experience that left me convinced that never ever again, even after 10 years, I (and anybody else with PIED or porn addiction in general) can possibly touch myself without some consequences.Gabe Deem said: