Use of supplements that promote dopamine receptor upregulation for PIED

So since starting my reboot i've developed a budding interest in the function of the brain's reward center and dopamine. Mostly because these topics affect myself now, it's become personal. Of course, i don't really understand in detail how this stuff works, i'm not smart enough for that. But i know that one of the factors that come into play when causing PIED is a constant influx of high doses of dopamine causing dopamine receptors to downregulate. The same phenomenon can be observed in alcoholics and drug addicts. I've read some research, or articles about research i should say, that after abstaining from the particular substance for a longer periode of time, let's say 1 year+, that causes the downregulation of receptors, the brain slowly starts to heal and upregulate dopamine receptors to account for the lower dopamine levels. This seems to be the case for alcoholics and drug addicts, so it stands to reason that it will work for porn addiction as well.

Now after some more searching and reading i came across an article that suggests, with a whole lot of references, which i sadly don't have the time to read through, that certain nootropics can increase or otherwise aid in the upregulation of dopamine receptors. I am, of course, not expecting nor suggesting these to be miracle cures and all problems will be solved by taking these. But i am curious if, when taken consistently over a longer period of time,  this could aid in alleviating symptoms of (Severe)PIED.

Now i don't think we have a lot of neuroscientists around here.(though if you are one, and you have some opinions on this, please do share!) But i'm curious if anyone around here has taken some of these supplements and if they noticed any positive effects during the reboot while taking these(Improved mood, better impulse control, decreased symptoms of anhodenia, etc.). Or if not, if you think that taking some of these supplements for some time, might do some good for you.

The article that i read which contains the nootropics i am reffering to is: https://www.theoptimizingblog.com/repair-dopamine-receptors/

very curious about you guys' thoughts about this.

hmmmmm, dont know about that. sounds like bullshit to me.
the best way to get over your problems is to stick with the reboot! stop looking for quick fix solutions or things that you think will speed up the process.
rebooting and rewiring is the only way to go.

TheGerbil said:

So since starting my reboot i've developed a budding interest in the function of the brain's reward center and dopamine. Mostly because these topics affect myself now, it's become personal. Of course, i don't really understand in detail how this stuff works, i'm not smart enough for that. But i know that one of the factors that come into play when causing PIED is a constant influx of high doses of dopamine causing dopamine receptors to downregulate. The same phenomenon can be observed in alcoholics and drug addicts. I've read some research, or articles about research i should say, that after abstaining from the particular substance for a longer periode of time, let's say 1 year+, that causes the downregulation of receptors, the brain slowly starts to heal and upregulate dopamine receptors to account for the lower dopamine levels. This seems to be the case for alcoholics and drug addicts, so it stands to reason that it will work for porn addiction as well.

Now after some more searching and reading i came across an article that suggests, with a whole lot of references, which i sadly don't have the time to read through, that certain nootropics can increase or otherwise aid in the upregulation of dopamine receptors. I am, of course, not expecting nor suggesting these to be miracle cures and all problems will be solved by taking these. But i am curious if, when taken consistently over a longer period of time, this could aid in alleviating symptoms of (Severe)PIED.

Now i don't think we have a lot of neuroscientists around here.(though if you are one, and you have some opinions on this, please do share!) But i'm curious if anyone around here has taken some of these supplements and if they noticed any positive effects during the reboot while taking these(Improved mood, better impulse control, decreased symptoms of anhodenia, etc.). Or if not, if you think that taking some of these supplements for some time, might do some good for you.

The article that i read which contains the nootropics i am reffering to is: https://www.theoptimizingblog.com/repair-dopamine-receptors/

very curious about you guys' thoughts about this.

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I read the book your brain on porn and it explains many of the physiological responses to porn as in the articles you read and it gives suggestions and other flappers testimonials! I gave up the supplement surge because it gave me an unnatural erection.....I'm on day 70, but on day 45 I had great success.....with no help from porn visions or supplements.....go cold turkey brother.....in my opinion eliminate ANYTHING that triggers a sexual response and the magic will comeback! Good luck and cheers!

There are studies suggesting porn does not cause down regulation of D2/D3 dopamine receptors look it up . The way people talk about dopamine hear is very simplistic and a bit ridiculous there is a lot more to erections/libido than dopamine .

I think pied is real but not in the way people on here think it is and in reality the brain has not been lmao rewired to porn or that porn is as bad as hard drugs I mean cmon really ? Heroin<porn seriously ?

My advice would be do your best to stay away from porn don’t panic if you relapse . Read my other post on here and just move on with your life forget about this stuff it will keep your physiology stuck .

Do not agree.....visual images and events cause chemical reactions in your which cause hormone release.....adrenaline for one ...does porn cause physical damage like drugs or alcohol...no it doesn't but it does affect receptors having to do with erections.....your explanation is simplistic as well! I have experienced the rewiring, and there is a physical change which occurs!

DWman6 said:

The way people talk about dopamine hear is very simplistic and a bit ridiculous there is a lot more to erections/libido than dopamine .

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"The way people talk about dopamine hear is very simplistic and a bit ridiculous there is a lot more to erections/libido than dopamine ."

Jo dude, noone says erection has only to do with dopamine, don´t tell other they oversimplify stuff and than say those things.
I just answered another post of you, with which I agreed in most parts, but what you are writing here is simply BS. You have no argument, you just claim that it´s wrong that you´re brain rewires to P even though thousands of people/men experience exactly that and can´t get aroused with real women but only P, thousands of Men experience escalation to more extreme stuff etc.
What is your mission here? Make people question P addiction exists?
Because that´s exactly what you do, when you claim one could just "move on" like there´s nothing. Then you claim it´s no addiction but only smth like an habit.

And pls give me the study you´re talking of.

@canguro , @Cmax fair enough those comments didn’t really make much sense and were quite rash miscommunication on my part , porn is addictive and can trigger sexual issues obviously cause arousal issues no denying . I experienced and suffered from severe symptoms myself for a long time .

However , when I say nothing is wrong and move on . it’s because it the best way to heal from a chronic illness when it is psychosomatic which after a certain period of time pied/low libido from porn likely is and at this point after a while there actually isn’t anything wrong anymore there body has recovered . I’m not saying go back to watching porn either as we know from reports, anaecdotaly,studies and from personnel experiences that it’s not good for your sexual/mental health and can trigger ED for sure and is not good for healthy relationships and u probs won’t get much better if you keep watching.

A few People on here think that porn has rewired there brain so deeply or there neurotransmitters have been fried when that may just not be the case . Being told this makes u think there is something very wrong with ur body and it makes recovery so hard .

My mission is to help people who have been away from porn for a while but are still sick and just to help them recover by showing how there beliefs can influence there physiology and that perhaps porn hasn’t damaged them as much as they think .
This is the study and it’s clearly not the end all be all as it has it’s limitations for sure .
I’m not trying to outright claim porn doesn’t effect your body in the slightest I just felt I had to be quite explicit in getting my point across and I got my ideas across wrong .
I just want people to realise that perhaps not everything on these sites are 100percent is correct I’m not not saying it’s all BS either . But it’s more for people who have been ages and are convinced that it’s PIED . I’m just saying your body is probably okay now physical body/brain changes from the addiction are better now but body can’t return to homeostasis due to OCD/ negative thought pattern keeping it out of whack .
If you are intrested in the science and theories behind the ideas in my posts read ‘you are the placebo ‘ or ‘the divided mind ‘ it will blow your mind on how powerful your brain/nervous system is and how the body can recover from all types of triggered chronic illnesses .

I hope this post makes a bit more sense to you guys and hopefully actually helps your recovery