Precum-induced erectile dysfunction?

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Checkpoint

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Hello, I'm a 25 years old male. I have been suffering from ED for about 8 months, since I met my current girlfriend. Before that, I had almost never had contact with females and I had been masturbating for about 10 years. For that reason, I believe there is some PIED component.
But there is more.
I think my penis can't stay hard because of precum. Whenever I start kissing her, most of the times I immediately have an erection and start emitting precum. After some minutes, after precum is emitted the penis goes down and becomes at max semi flaccid, but it keeps emitting precum.
After this stage, no matter what we do, I can't regain a firm erection.

I tried to test it even in a masturbation scenario. I started masturbating, and when precum started to come out, erection immediately slightly lost quality (just very slightly). If I stopped and tried to regain erection with porn after some minutes, it was a bit more difficult to achieve erection, and my penis felt "tired" and porn "less interesting", exactly like I had orgasmed.
During masturbation though, this isn't a problem, since most of the times you just start looking at porn and start stroking until orgams, there are no preliminaries or kisses or greetings.

The same thing happens with my girlfriend, but on a much grievous fashion. Precum comes out much more quickly and in much more quantity compared to a masturbation with porn scenario. It's like some kind of premature ejaculation. After some minutes my penis felt "tired" despite not having done anything other than emitting precum.

If I go home after I have been kissing and masturbating reciprocally with my girlfriend (with no orgasm, as I said) and start watching porn, sometimes I can't even get it hard, and some other times is noticeably more difficult compared to normal times. My dick feels very tired, in some way.


I read online that your body can "mistake" precum emission for a full blown orgasm. And I feel like this is exactly what's happening. I believe there is some kind of psychological component, since maybe my girlfriend can't turn me on like a porn would do, despite the fact I get much quicker erections when I start making out with my girlfriend (not always) compared to erections with porn.


Does anyone have symptoms similar to mine? I think there might be some biology behind this too.

I would happy to know if there is someone with my exact symptoms, and if he managed to heal with nofap.
 
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ichy

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Hi, I have the same issue. Its exactly like you wrote but I didnt find solution to that. Maybe you found something since you posted this thread? People say its psychologicall but its for sure more than that. Cialis can help but its not long term solution.
 
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misc person 86

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Can't comment on the exact reason for this, but honestly I think it's just classic pied. I'm no expert on precum, or anything for that matter. But in my experience pre cum generally "dribbled" out as my erection faded. It's probably just more noticeable as your erection fades. Give up the PMO and be patient. Wait for the super powers to come... Then go again... Then come back... Then go again... Until hopefully one day you'll be firing on all cylinders every time. Good luck.
 
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and my penis felt "tired" and porn "less interesting", exactly like I had orgasmed.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm in a flatline and whenever I get an erection my dick feels "tired" & "less interesting" then erection just start fading after that. I'm not sure if you're in a flatline but I think you need to give your system a rest and just go for the reboot.....you won't be disappointed.
 
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ichy

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thanks for reply folks. You are on point with many things. But I think this is bit deeper than that. I did 100 days reboot and still had the same issue.
I did research on that and found few people with the same issue. Very very likely this is caused by over masturbation but I also heard about 9 months porn free case with the same issue.

ED caused by semen leakage is because of weak pelvic floor or pelvic muscle. This muscle should hold semen back but when arroused it happens that it leaks out and person is losing "sexual energy" and not able to get hard.  Its also related to parasympathetic nervous system that is controlling that muscle.
I would pay by gold for solution :) somebody can say meditation etc but it shouldnt be that complicated.......
 
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Checkpoint

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ichy said:
thanks for reply folks. You are on point with many things. But I think this is bit deeper than that. I did 100 days reboot and still had the same issue.
I did research on that and found few people with the same issue. Very very likely this is caused by over masturbation but I also heard about 9 months porn free case with the same issue.

ED caused by semen leakage is because of weak pelvic floor or pelvic muscle. This muscle should hold semen back but when arroused it happens that it leaks out and person is losing "sexual energy" and not able to get hard.  Its also related to parasympathetic nervous system that is controlling that muscle.
I would pay by gold for solution :) somebody can say meditation etc but it shouldnt be that complicated.......
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You are mistaking semen leakage with precum leakage.
The latter is supposed to be normal, and should be a part of normal arousal (one of the functions is lubrification)

I'm the opener of this thread and sadly I didn't find any solution.

In these months I did masturbate at porn I think 3 times, and I masturbated without porn nor fantasy for Ithink 10 times.
I'm currently 1 month without porn nor masturbation. My objective now is to someday have an orgams with a girl, I will not masturbate even without porn until that moment.
 
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malando

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For a lot of people the 90 day reboot is barely the beginning. Everybody has a different response and recovery time to rebooting. A lot of people (including Gabe Deem who runs this forum) took a lot longer than 90 days to recover. You shouldn't be worrying about being cured after a 100 day reboot. You just need longer. Maybe you'll be one of those guys who needs 6 months, or a year, or even 2 years. It can really take that long with some people. You need to accept that as a possibility. If you have such advanced PIED, you need to use that information as inspiration to not go back to porn EVER. Forget all these precum theories - they are inventions of your mind. You just need more time for your brain to rewire after being blasted with artificial stimuli for 10 years. If you stay off porn, you will recover eventually. Good luck and stay strong.
 
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malando said:
For a lot of people the 90 day reboot is barely the beginning. Everybody has a different response and recovery time to rebooting. A lot of people (including Gabe Deem who runs this forum) took a lot longer than 90 days to recover. You shouldn't be worrying about being cured after a 100 day reboot. You just need longer. Maybe you'll be one of those guys who needs 6 months, or a year, or even 2 years. It can really take that long with some people. You need to accept that as a possibility. If you have such advanced PIED, you need to use that information as inspiration to not go back to porn EVER. Forget all these precum theories - they are inventions of your mind. You just need more time for your brain to rewire after being blasted with artificial stimuli for 10 years. If you stay off porn, you will recover eventually. Good luck and stay strong.
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Right on. This guys nailed it.

Don't lose faith at all though, your natural human instinct cannot be erased, it's in your blood, you've evolved from it. Yes repetition of artificial stimuli and a warped sense of normal sexual encounters has messed you and many of us up, along with a dependency on dopamine release (remember there's usually 2 problems at heart here), but there's no reason your brain cannot return to its normal instinctive masculine state once you've laid off the PMO for as long is necessary for yourself... Which, like the guy says, could be years... So don't rush, chill out and try enjoy your life. Stop focusing on sex. I know it's difficult (hell, I do it)... But you'll wind yourself up in to a frenzy before you know it. I'm nearly 2 years PMO free so I speak from experience.
 
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c63fullsend

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Checkpoint said:
Hello, I'm a 25 years old male. I have been suffering from ED for about 8 months, since I met my current girlfriend. Before that, I had almost never had contact with females and I had been masturbating for about 10 years. For that reason, I believe there is some PIED component.
But there is more.
I think my penis can't stay hard because of precum. Whenever I start kissing her, most of the times I immediately have an erection and start emitting precum. After some minutes, after precum is emitted the penis goes down and becomes at max semi flaccid, but it keeps emitting precum.
After this stage, no matter what we do, I can't regain a firm erection.

I tried to test it even in a masturbation scenario. I started masturbating, and when precum started to come out, erection immediately slightly lost quality (just very slightly). If I stopped and tried to regain erection with porn after some minutes, it was a bit more difficult to achieve erection, and my penis felt "tired" and porn "less interesting", exactly like I had orgasmed.
During masturbation though, this isn't a problem, since most of the times you just start looking at porn and start stroking until orgams, there are no preliminaries or kisses or greetings.

The same thing happens with my girlfriend, but on a much grievous fashion. Precum comes out much more quickly and in much more quantity compared to a masturbation with porn scenario. It's like some kind of premature ejaculation. After some minutes my penis felt "tired" despite not having done anything other than emitting precum.

If I go home after I have been kissing and masturbating reciprocally with my girlfriend (with no orgasm, as I said) and start watching porn, sometimes I can't even get it hard, and some other times is noticeably more difficult compared to normal times. My dick feels very tired, in some way.


I read online that your body can "mistake" precum emission for a full blown orgasm. And I feel like this is exactly what's happening. I believe there is some kind of psychological component, since maybe my girlfriend can't turn me on like a porn would do, despite the fact I get much quicker erections when I start making out with my girlfriend (not always) compared to erections with porn.


Does anyone have symptoms similar to mine? I think there might be some biology behind this too.

I would happy to know if there is someone with my exact symptoms, and if he managed to heal with nofap.
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did you ever get a fix for this? Did it disappear after a certain time abstaining from PMO?
 
Fappy

Fappy

Respected Member
Thats an new one. teh sight of the precum, or the feeling of it, might be a trigger? it comes out when you look at porn so the brain might be wired to that situation. never heard of that before though sorry. the best thing is to stick with the reboot, and it will naturally repair itself.
 
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blerasdcru

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Hey, i have those same symptoms. furthermore, yesteerday i met a woman and we have a wonderfulr night but my penis was totally limp (we didnt try to have sex, but we kissed and that stuff). I dont even get a semi erection, and cum went out repeteadly during all night. That sucks. I achieved 90 days but i relapsed many many times. Let s keep strong, we are together in that, and i hope someday we will be free of this. Good luck!
 
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