PIED more than 1 year?!

piedburn

Member
Hello,

I am 30 years old. I stopped watching porn in May 2018 because I felt disgusted.  After that Ive been in a flatline. It has been 1 year and am I still in a flatline and still cant get it up with a sexual partner. Ive seen 2 urologists and taken panels of blood samples that all have been normal. The Rigiscan monitor test was normal. The second urologist told me that it was probably due to porn and a connection mismatch in the brain. He referred me to a sexologist, which I am waiting for.

- Lost virginity late (> 18 years).
- Been with few females, last one more than 4 years ago. 
- Started watching porn by age 12. Watched almost every day until last year. Havent watched porn since I quit.
- Have MO and O from oral (10 % hard....).
- I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner.

I need some help here! Suggestions? Should I MO or what?
 
Yo dude, if you haven't watched porn since 1 year, your brain must be rebooted by now. The neurologic pathways and your dopamine receptors should be fine too when abstaining from porn for a year. I see this with a lot of rebooters, they can't perform sexually and they blame it on porn in a second, which most of the time it is the porn, don't get me wrong. But if you managed to abstain from porn for over a year i personally think it is performance anxiety. If you are too much in your mind if you want to perform sexually, your dick won't go up, if you think too much about ''wow i wonder if my ed is over'', ''i don't think this will work'', ''i am a loser if i can't perform''. Ofcourse you can't get it hard if you focus too much on negative thoughts.

I suggest you to do the porn addiction test, if you can get it up by yourself without watching porn you are not addicted and your brain is just fine. Also, maybe tell the girl you are used to take things slower at first sexually, this way the girl won't have high expactations and you can relax more, meaning easier to get it up.

Let me know if this worked for you!

greetings
 

Guts

Member
piedburn said:
At least 3 months. But I havent watched porn at all. A while ago I hade wet dreams but not anymore

Try these two methods out. Over the next few months try and limit your orgasms, only have sex if you feel like you can. If you have to force an erection, don't do it. After a few months if you feel like you aren't making progress I'd say try and abstain from all intentional orgasms for at least 6 months. 

6 months was the only thing that's done it for me, but even then you still need to limit your orgasms after the 6 months.
 

Tyr

Member
Guts said:
piedburn said:
At least 3 months. But I havent watched porn at all. A while ago I hade wet dreams but not anymore

Try these two methods out. Over the next few months try and limit your orgasms, only have sex if you feel like you can. If you have to force an erection, don't do it. After a few months if you feel like you aren't making progress I'd say try and abstain from all intentional orgasms for at least 6 months. 

6 months was the only thing that's done it for me, but even then you still need to limit your orgasms after the 6 months.

I second this advice.

Extending on it, try and increase your rewiring time - even if it's not too sexual, eg. holding hands, kissing, hugging. Even if you have sex, avoid orgasm.
 

Curt76

Member
Curious, what physical things do you feel?  Obviously your a long rebooter.  I myself am too.  I am asking myself the same questions.  I haven't orgasmed or watch porn since oct 7 last year.  I have head pressure comes and goes all the time.  Sometimes I feel like I am coming out of it and I can start getting erections soon, then, like now I feel like shit and can tell there are physical changes going on behind my eyes and in the middle of my brain.  I"m flatlining right now.  A month ago I though all this was coming to an end.  Up and down Up and down.  I know things are still correcting itself in my brain.  But when does this stop.  I don't think anyone knows the true answer.  You have to stick it out and let the body correct itself.  Like you I want answers, but I don't think anyone can truly answer our questions.  Thank God for this forum, Gabe, Noah and Gary.  This is the craziest thing I have ever been through in my life.  And it seems like nobody understands except the people in this forum.  43 year old heterosexual here. 12 year internet porn idiot.
 

piedburn

Member
Thanks for the answers guys, I'll try not to O at all. I actually have zero libido, it is crazy. Nothing happens when I try with a girl. But i'll give it 6 months
 

foo

Member
> I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner.

Fantasizing probably isn't helping you.

During your reboot, try to stay completely free of artificial sexual stimulation, sexual imagery of any kind, etc.
 

scorpion1386

Well-Known Member
foo said:
> I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner.

Fantasizing probably isn't helping you.

During your reboot, try to stay completely free of artificial sexual stimulation, sexual imagery of any kind, etc.

Is fantasizing to the point of even getting a little hard a relapse?
 

foo

Member
> Is fantasizing to the point of even getting a little hard a relapse?

IMO, yes it is.

You are concocting imagery of women in your head based on past experiences, pornography, and your imagination. These images and scenarios are contrived and not at all like what you would encounter with real women. How is this any different from looking at pornography?

When you are rebooting, why take the risk.
 

scorpion1386

Well-Known Member
foo said:
> Is fantasizing to the point of even getting a little hard a relapse?

IMO, yes it is.

You are concocting imagery of women in your head based on past experiences, pornography, and your imagination. These images and scenarios are contrived and not at all like what you would encounter with real women. How is this any different from looking at pornography?

When you are rebooting, why take the risk.

So you're saying if I happen to get a text message (possibly non sexual) from someone and I get an involuntarily semi hard on and some precum, it's an automatic reset/relapse?

I do understand your concern, but what's your logic behind this? I can't control that. No reboot is perfect. You can't possibly control all sexual thoughts 24/7. Meditation alone can't do this. Your brain is wired to seek pleasure.

What I have been doing is taking up a practice of limiting attachment to sexual imagery if I see it, and it seems to be working (so far).

If I start to feel some mental benefits from how I've been doing it (9-10 days clean here), then I don't understand the logic completely.
 

foo

Member
Piedburn stated: "I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner."

That sounds to me like he is deliberately indulging in an imagined sexual fantasy in an attempt to become aroused. IMO, that would exercise the same pathways as pornography does. Instead of a physical screen, there is an imagined screen in his head.

That's not the same as an involuntary erection in some unplanned situation.

In my opinion, someone who is rebooting should try to avoid this kind of fantasy.
 

scorpion1386

Well-Known Member
foo said:
Piedburn stated: "I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner."

That sounds to me like he is deliberately indulging in an imagined sexual fantasy in an attempt to become aroused. IMO, that would exercise the same pathways as pornography does. Instead of a physical screen, there is an imagined screen in his head.

That's not the same as an involuntary erection in some unplanned situation.

In my opinion, someone who is rebooting should try to avoid this kind of fantasy.

Gotcha. Thank you for clarifying.
 

piedburn

Member
Ok, I didn't think that when I fantasize I would trigger same pathways in that way. But it is extremely hard (npi) to just be, because not having any sexual drive for more than 1 year is making me crazy, I don't get this. I still haven't gotten an appointment to a sexologist, so I'm waiting. I don't know what more I can do.


scorpion1386 said:
foo said:
Piedburn stated: "I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner."

That sounds to me like he is deliberately indulging in an imagined sexual fantasy in an attempt to become aroused. IMO, that would exercise the same pathways as pornography does. Instead of a physical screen, there is an imagined screen in his head.

That's not the same as an involuntary erection in some unplanned situation.

In my opinion, someone who is rebooting should try to avoid this kind of fantasy.

Gotcha. Thank you for clarifying.
 

piedburn

Member
pearland71 said:
It was ~2 years for my reboot. I'm 99% back to normal with that 1% being PE.

Thank you. Did you do anything special and how did you notice that it was better? Did it start with higher libido or spontaneous erections? Because I have zero libido still and still nothing happens when when I/she touches my penis.
 
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