going beyond porn

ankit

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hey guys,
i am struggling with porn and masturbation addiction since a long time..
i have decided to quit many times but my commitment  does not last longer than a week.. i educated myself with some videos ,books,articles....but something was always missing now i firmly decided to do it now once and for all ..this time i will succeed no matter how intense the cravings are i m after all a man and i will beat them up(dont worry i wont mess with them but ignore them).if anyone one of you guys can share some stuff,advice anything i will value it with the middle of heart..
thanks
 
I firmly believe that the start to recovery is planning and strategy. You will not eliminate lust, fantasy, porn, or compulsive masturbation by using one or two tools, such as going to a group, or going to a counselor. These alone are not enough.

You must establish a web of freedom - a specific written strategy for YOUR context. The goal is neither perfection, nor dismissive acquiescence of occasional acting out. Rather, the goal is freedom from compulsive or addictive sexual behaviors. Many of us have failed in our struggle because we have not brought our struggle into the open; and we do not have a comprehensive approach or strategy. I know that was the case for me!

1. Take care of your spouse if you have one ? and get care for her (or him). They more than likely have been damaged and broken by your actions.

2. Consider extreme measures such as getting the Internet out of your home. If you think you must access it on any computer or other device, give your spouse and an accountability partner a specific justification for it.

3. Block all sexual content from all electronic devices with Internet connection, and use accountability software. Get it installed on your work computers. Make sure one or two people, including your accountability partner (not your spouse) receive your Internet usage reports. (visit http://www.mymensgroup.net/helpful-links.html for some links to these tools)

4. Begin meeting weekly with a counselor with experience in addictions (preferably a licensed therapist certified in sexual addiction), and give full disclosure of your sexual history. If married, be willing to include your spouse when the therapist recommends it.

5. Confess your struggle and your behaviors to God (a higher power or whatever you believe in), to another spiritually mature person of the same gender, and (with counseling), to your spouse.

6. Meet regularly with an accountability partner that will hold your feet to the fire, call you a liar when necessary. It may not be easy to find the right person for you; but persevere until you find a good one. Make sure he/she is committed to radical honesty. If he/she is inclined to let you slip, find a new one. (visit: http://www.mymensgroup.net/accountability-resources.html for some helpful accountability resources)

7. Maintain open communication with your spiritual overseers.

8. Participate weekly in a 12-Step or similar support group that specifically deals with sexual addiction/compulsion, and seek out a sponsor or mentor.

9. Develop a specific strategy for what you will do when tempted or vulnerable. (See http://www.mymensgroup.net/addiction-recovery-resources.html)

10. Develop a specific strategy for what to do if you relapse (slip, fall). (see http://www.mymensgroup.net/uploads/7/8/1/1/78111116/relapse.pdf)

11. Defeat Isolation. Stay connected with other men/women ? call them regularly.  This is a big one! (see http://www.mymensgroup.net/building-intimacy--connection-resources.html)

12. Read recovery books and articles, and view recovery media on the Internet. (For tons of great material visit: http://www.mymensgroup.net/)

13. Initiate a relationship with a pastor or spiritual director, to help you develop and keep a plan for spiritual health.

14. Have a plan for physical health, including good diet, exercise and sleep. See a medical doctor regularly. Tell your doctor about your sexual struggle. Don?t overlook medication for anxiety or depression if needed.


I hope these ideas help and establish a comprehensive web that will allow freedom to come as you seek to recover. I can honestly say that when I started focusing not just on my behaviors (trying to quit porn or masturbation) but employed a bunch of these safeguards and practices and then starting getting down to the hard work of digging in to underlying root issues (for me it was shame, fear of vulnerability, perfectionism, lack of love and affection in my childhood, etc.) is when the recovery breakthrough happened.

The key to breaking the addiction for me was to figure out what those underlying things were (with the help of a counselor) that needed to be addressed in more appropriate and healthy ways so that I could learn to not turn to porn numb out. I was using porn and masturbation as coping mechanism and to self medicate. I learned growing up that when I felt pain, rejection or unloved that I could make myself feel better by turning to those inappropriate things. They were safe. I didn't need to be vulnerable or rely on anyone else. Now I reach out to others in a healthy way when I am in need. We are all wired for intimacy and connection and when we try to bypass the hard work that connecting with others takes we end up choosing a quick fix that leaves us feeling empty and lonely inside. Once I was able to make that shift I could break the cycle, the behaviors like porn and masturbation started to go away, and I naturally had less of a desire for them because I was getting those needs met in appropriate and ways through healthy relationships.

If you get a cold, you'll have the symptoms of a runny nose and cough. Focusing all your efforts on the symptoms (behaviors) what kinds of tissues to buy or which cough drops you need misses the mark. You need to get at the underlying cold and then the nose will clear up and the sore throat will go away.

Blessings to you on the road to recovery. Remember...it's about progress. Not perfection!

 

ankit

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posting this reply on the day i relapsed the most but hurray i have overcomed the day with much satisfaction and surely there is an advice for you guys
>>>just start to plan what you are gonna do when urges strike and dont mess with your urges
 

gars1575

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Thanks for all those pieces of advice ! It gives me strength ... and I need it for sure, as I keep relapsing again and again, I do not know how to deal with my urges ! I actually see a psychologist; but I do not have to courage to talk about my addiction ... I know it is silly, but I feel so ashamed that I do not  say anything! Well I'll go and have a look at all the links you have posted up there ... I'm not so sure though I know what an accountability person is !
 

malando

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gars1575 said:
Thanks for all those pieces of advice ! It gives me strength ... and I need it for sure, as I keep relapsing again and again, I do not know how to deal with my urges ! I actually see a psychologist; but I do not have to courage to talk about my addiction ... I know it is silly, but I feel so ashamed that I do not  say anything! Well I'll go and have a look at all the links you have posted up there ... I'm not so sure though I know what an accountability person is !

You gotta get past this! If your psychologist doesn't know this about you, he/she can't give you the right help - it's totally wasting your time and money. This is a vital piece of information that a psychologist would need to know. When you think about it, if there's ever anybody to tell this to in real life, it's somebody who's heard everything already, is sworn an oath to confidentiality, and who only wants to help you. It's crazy to not tell them.
 

ankit

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hey guys
i used to relapse again and again .. i was so overwhelmed with my addiction that i had a strong belief that i would not be able to leave this habit in all my lifetime but one thing you need to understand is all these urges are from your addicted brain which wants that high level of dopamine again and again which makes everyday activities boring. now whenever you feel some urge just try to imagine what's going on in  your brain. i was able to break the cycle of relapsing again and again by making the time managed at the end of the day earlier i was not at all going out but now i am almost 10 hours outside .i exercise a lot ,i eat a lot i have started spending time with my friends who were somewhat lost when i was caught in this cycle of porn.your first day might be some sort of boring nut as the day passes by you get your excitement level upgraded in day to day activities.you will be surprised that ohhh man i didn't know i could do that..praise yourself for not giving up at the end of the day..and remember you don't lose until you give up.
 

ankit

Active Member
hello rebooters
for the last two days i am feeling restless and not able to think creatively my mind seems heavy and desperate for porn but i am not giving up..
plz share your advice
 

Introspect

Member
Thank you ankit for asking this question and to mymensgroup717 for your excellent and comprehensive answer.
It is a lot to adopt, but I think I too can do these things if I take it one step at a time. I think we all can.

ankit, not to state the obvious, but feeling BLASTed (bored, lonely, angry, stressed, tired) or any other "negative" emotion like feeling worn out and apathetic are dangerous to addicts. These emotions set the stage for relapse, because getting a PMO fix is one of the primary ways we have been using to free ourselves of the negative emotions and feel better. But I bet you know this.

This is when you have to be extra aware of what you are doing online. If you catch yourself getting drawn to triggering things you need to stop immediately and do whatever it is that you do to wind down and connect to other people or the real world.

Whatever you do, don't stay put in the risky situation (eg alone in front of the computer with no-one around). Get outside. Go meditate. Go to the gym. Go to a caf?. Call somebody. Go meet with real people. Or just do anything that you have planned to do when you feel the urges are becoming too much - but do not stay put in the risky situation if you can help it.

Stay strong ankit, and don't give up. Have a healthy outlet planned instead of watching porn.

 
gars1575, an accountability partner is a person who coaches another person in terms of helping the other person keep a commitment. So for this issue it is someone that helps you to break from the addiction of porn and/or masturbation. They ask you routine questions about how it's going and hold you accountable to sobriety or purity in the area of struggle.Creating a safe environment for this to happen is definitely critical to be able to open up and share with your accountability partner how exactly you are doing with your temptations and other heart level things in your life. That being said, it?s also important to make sure that accountability questions that your partner is asking get to heart level matters. Guys have to feel safe and have a level of trust established in order to go to that level though. I see three main types of accountability. Cop accountability where the cop takes a ?gotcha!? legalistic approach to the person being held accountable. There is also coach accountability where the coach tries to be very positive and encouraging and finally there is cardiac accountability where the person gets to heart level issues and matters with the person being held accountable. This gets at the underlying things that manifest with symptoms of acting out (porn, masturbation, affairs, etc.) The key with accountability is not just focusing on the symptoms which is how the person acted out (cop and coach) but to get to the underlying root issues or causes that were behind the acting out (cardiac). Here is an article that describes this: http://www.mymensgroup.net/uploads/7/8/1/1/78111116/accessibility_vs._accountability.pdf
 

ankit

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i relapsed and i feel like shit...
i am so much depressed and my legs are much weak..
i couldn't stop myself it.i want to cry and i m feeling angry..
i don't know whether i will overcome or not i have failed so many times..
i just want to kill myself.
i was at home in the morning and was feeling ill so i didn't get out for play and i was resting in my bed and suddenly i started feeling urges those thoughts were becoming stronger and stronger i told myself it was wrong but that was probably not enough..
 

malando

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Don't worry about what has happened. Worry about what you will do next time. When you feel these urges again, go outside for a walk, get on your bike and go for a ride. Just get out of the house! Each time you fall, try to learn something from it. Eventually you will not slip just because an urge comes along. Be nice to yourself - accept your weaknesses and work with them. You'll get there if you don't give up. You're not the only one who has slipped - we've all done it. The people who get somewhere are not to harsh with themselves, but they try to do better and they learn from their mistakes. You can't be inside when the urges strike - so go outside!

Best wishes, M.
 

Introspect

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Ankit, Malando is right. It happens to all of us, so don't beat yourself up about it.
Even the very best teams lose matches during a season. You win some and you lose some.
It is all about the journey and the long term trend. Stand up, dust yourself off, and look towards the future.

This feeling of defeat will pass. When you feel better maybe there are things you can do to try to prevent a similar relapse in the future?
 

ankit

Active Member
Thank you guys for your support but i dont want that whole of my life ends up struggling with porn there is a deep fear in my hwad that i will never be able to make it to the end ..i am feeling really  demotivated my heart is asking me why again.!!!
 
ankit said:
Thank you guys for your support but i dont want that whole of my life ends up struggling with porn there is a deep fear in my hwad that i will never be able to make it to the end ..i am feeling really  demotivated my heart is asking me why again.!!!

Sh!t happens man. It happens to the best of us. Not to sound gay (not that there's anything wrong with it, just saying) or anything but look at Gabe. He is a young, good looking fella with an amazing, supportive partner but even he had a problem with porn. This is a mental issue. I personally know people who are extremely successful in life but have hidden mental issues. They realize the problem at some point and take action to beat it. You'll too. It's not too late for anything. Don't forget about the relapse and move on but take it as a lesson learned and learn from it. Even if you relapse after 1 week, that's a week's gain of not PMOing after years of daily PMOs. There are people on this forum who have been porn addicts for 30-40 years (even when it was much more difficult to consume porn due to unavailability of internet) and they have recovered. You can do it! Just believe in yourself! Cheers to you mate!
 

Introspect

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jstratham84 said:
You can do it! Just believe in yourself!

You really can do this ankit. But it is difficult to start over again after a relapse.

Just give it a little time, and do the best you can NOT to go on a binge. Remember, it seems tempting right now, but afterwards porn does not feel good at all. Just empty and pointless.

Right now you are in a valley between two waves. Soon your mood will start to rise again. Just hold on until tomorrow.
Try to get physically away from the tempations and the triggers. You are really weak to them right now, and you should not test yourself.
 

gars1575

Member
I relapsed too last night, was upset, vulnerable, lonely ... lots of things on my plate ... and lots of urges ! I first thought ... I'll resist ... but my brain would not let me ... I knew at that point that I should go out, go for a ride, for a walk, meditate, Watch my favourite series, listen to my nice music ... but my brain did not let me !Every idea to avoid porn was hazy and eventually faded ! I suddenly realized I was  watching it ! That is how strong this shit is !so strong that your intelligence is crushed ! I'm a smart man, I usually understand things pretty fast and I always try to learn more on everything !When I understood my brain was playing tricks with me, I thought, you won't have me do it again !I know how you work now ! You have strategies, so do I ! !! but wouah ... the opponent is also very smart and I have to admit that for now it is smarter than me !!!! I keep losing !!!! 4days and I relapse !!!! ok ok ok I do not  get pessimistic because as I said, I understood how that shit works ... just need to have a new strategy to fool my very intelligent opponent !!! That is why I keep reading this blog cause many did it, so why can' t I !????
One more try !!!!!
 
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