Women are into PMO just as much as men

Hello,


There is a myth floating around that women don't do it as much as men. Some seem to believe they don't do it at all. Well, my question to you, fellow RN members, is how can men of today be so naive? The sex toy industry is a billion dollar industry and 90% of it is oriented towards women. Some of these toys and devices have prices within the same range as household items. And they sell well. Otherwise they wouldn't manufacture them.

Speaking of porn, women are just as much into it. We, as former porn users, must have noticed that on certain porn websites, videos have a comment section and you must have noticed that gender balance in these comment sections is 50%-50%.

The proof is all around. Yet male porn addicts (which is the majority of young men unfortunately), who are trained, professional pussy worshipers (thanks to years and years of porn use) believe that women are immune, uncorruptible by this vice. That it's impossible for this vice to touch them. How silly of them. The proof is all around. Not to mention the health effects that you see on women.

If you look at a woman on purpose, you can tell whether she's into PMO or not and how much she's into it. We actually do this subconsciously when we reject certain women or don't even notice them; when we label them as uninteresting or off putting. But if you are someone who actually studies this porn addiction problem, you can tell it just by their vibe, their skin, not to mention their eyes. Once you become aware of Nofap, you should quickly notice these things... You will quickly divide people into two categories. The majority; and a select few like ourselves.

PMO and dildos rob women of their glamour. It robs them of that female glow. I'm sure there's men out there who are not into PMO and yet they have trouble finding a woman who is on the same frequency. The signs of what's going on are all around. And it's very bad.

Well this is one women who isn't and never was into PMO. As well as a few friends of mine with husbands who have become similar addicts in this crap. They as well agree they never have and never wanted to have anything to do with porn. On the other hand my hubby and most men I know are hard pressed to find friends that don't dabble in porn. Sure there are women who do and have, and porn can get a grip on a women just like men, but as a rule, no, women are not as susceptible to porn addiction as men. Are you a women into porn? Women are into erotica more. Women like the story and romance behind things, hence the erotica but men, they're not so hard to please. All they need to get off and excited is body parts.

Objectified1 said:

Well this is one women who isn't and never was into PMO. As well as a few friends of mine with husbands who have become similar addicts in this crap. They as well agree they never have and never wanted to have anything to do with porn.

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You mention women who are married. I was talking about the young ones. Perhaps you are thinking about women aged 30-35 and older. The women who are married today are women who grew up without internet. But if you look at those younger than 30, we are talking about a disaster. They're no different than men of their age. We are a generation of young people with no energy, in a zombie like state.     

Objectified1 said:

On the other hand my hubby and most men I know are hard pressed to find friends that don't dabble in porn.

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What do you mean by that?

Objectified1 said:

Sure there are women who do and have, and porn can get a grip on a women just like men, but as a rule, no, women are not as susceptible to porn addiction as men.

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That rule sounds plausible for the generations that predate porn. But as far as mine is concerned, it's like an invisible apocalypse (I'm 25).

Objectified1 said:

Are you a women into porn?

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You flatter me! It seems I'm good at tuning into female consciousness and the female way of thinking. Something that most young men nowadays desperately lack. I must be doing good in this department, if I made you think that I'm a woman disguised as a man! You don't think that a man can write in the style that I did, do you? Well, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a guy.

Objectified1 said:

Women are into erotica more.

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Porn and erotica are the same thing. Brainwise they are exactly the same. Softcore or hardcore.... it's still -core, if you know what I mean. The same area of the brain gets stimulated (at the sight of nakedness) and you get the same amount of dopamine release. Overall it's the same thing: artificial stimulation. The very thing that this website warns you about. So basically, women have the same problem. They visit the same websites that guys do and watch a variety of videos. Like you say, perhaps the only difference being that they skip the hardcore scenes and concentrate more on the dialogues, the story and stuff. And yes, women fancy a range of genres that is broader than that of guys. But the end result is a dopamine fix identical to that of guys and problems in life identical to those of guys.

Objectified1 said:

Women like the story and romance behind things, hence the erotica but men, they're not so hard to please. All they need to get off and excited is body parts.

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Men are not so hard to please... All they need to get off and excited is body parts. Do you really mean that? You must be kidding, although I know you're not. You think men are not into romance? You see that's where most young women's problems come from. You think that all men are the same. You must be about my age or younger. Older women don't speak like this.

I agree that younger men nowadays tend to be very stupid, like never before. It's all our fault that we allowed ourselves to fall this low. When you girls gossip, you talk about guys like you talk about pets. It is true. Through ignorance, the latest generations of men have allowed themselves to fall to a very low level. Anyways, one thing I know is that you see all men as parrots that have the same color, who all chant the same word and all flap their wings 3 times when you give them their favorite food. It's sad, but it's the truth. However, you gotta keep in mind that there's also intelligent men out there.

Arcturus said:

Men are not so hard to please... All they need to get off and excited is body parts. Do you really mean that? You must be kidding, although I know you're not. You think men are not into romance? You see that's where most young women's problems come from. You think that all men are the same. You must be about my age or younger. Older women don't speak like this.

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Very arrogant words coming from somebody who is generalizing whole generations and dealing mostly in absolutes.
You are not arguing, just lashing out theories without anything to back them up. Sounds like you are very bitter, who hurt you?

PS: You don't need to be around here for very long to know that Objectified1 is not your age.

I have been researching and reading in the topic of porn addiction for close to a year now. I don't have a desire to get deep into it all so I'm not going to. I'll just respond to a few things you said. First of all, I did specifically refer to married women because yea I am married as are my friends, however I have more siblings then fingers and I am the oldest at 34 years old. Me and my siblings, many girls, are very close. We talk about everything including sex.
My sisters are appalled at porn, some being younger then you... All their little girlfriends don't like it either. I had often seen them say how gross it is. Hand then a harlequin romance though an they're good to go. I have yet to see any man engrossed in harlequin romance novel. Why did you think I was giving you credit when I asked if you were a girl addicted to porn? You are highly mistaken. I was asking as in, how do you know or back up what your saying? Are YOU a women addicted to porn? I would have put, Obviously not! but I never thought you would take me as really meaning you were. Being near 10 years older then you also gives me life experience. I never once said that men are my interested in romance or stupid at all. Neither did I insinuate it. My husband is extremely intelligent and smart. He also loves to be romantic as I do. With that being said he is, and most men are easily turned on by the physical without romance being mixed in the lot. It is not a prerequisite.  Women can be but to a much lesser extent. Women get more turned on so to speak wen romance is in the mix. It about the emotions for us not so much the physical. You could stand there buck naked all day and it may turn me on but not necessarily especially if I'm not in the mood and there's no romance in the mix. Flash skin at hubby and he's ready to go. It's no insult to men at all and there's nothing wrong with it. So don't go turning what I said into something it isn't. I love my husband and God made us different to complement each other and it's great. I love that he's like that's. He initiates the physical, I initiate the Romance and we have an awesome time. If it's done right. Anyhow. There's also a ton of research and statistics of you care to actually research and read that proves the differences in men and women but I'm pressed for time and I also think you should maybe Just take a look into it yourself.

Hi guys and ladies,

I was reading some of the comments here and all I want to share is that everyone has an opinion, that's fine, but the purpose of this forum is to help one another. Everyone has a personal story, and whether the statistics reflect one side over the other or 50/50 doesn't matter. The point is porn is not good at all and we share our stories not only to get things off our chest but also so that others can find a safe place to understand that we are not alone in this struggle. We are here because we want this out of our lives period.

I am a woman in her 30's, who never thought of porn as an option or that I would even dabble in it and yet I did and it's something I wish I could turn back time and erase. It started as a curiosity, a shock factor and slowly but surely led into an addiction. I hid it extremely well and no one that knows me would ever guessed that I was committing to the very thing I hated.

Other people here were introduced to it by their partner and then got hooked, others by a parent, others at school, others sexual abuse.  Others just recreationally and then it took over. A lot of people here are hurting badly. Reading the other journals helps and asking questions helps too. Whatever the reason, we should never assume things based solely on our own experience. Focus on what matters, healing and taking a stand against this evil.

That's all I have to say.

Objectified1 said:

I have been researching and reading in the topic of porn addiction for close to a year now. I don't have a desire to get deep into it all so I'm not going to. I'll just respond to a few things you said. First of all, I did specifically refer to married women because yea I am married as are my friends, however I have more siblings then fingers and I am the oldest at 34 years old. Me and my siblings, many girls, are very close. We talk about everything including sex.
My sisters are appalled at porn, some being younger then you... All their little girlfriends don't like it either. I had often seen them say how gross it is. Hand then a harlequin romance though an they're good to go. I have yet to see any man engrossed in harlequin romance novel. Why did you think I was giving you credit when I asked if you were a girl addicted to porn? You are highly mistaken. I was asking as in, how do you know or back up what your saying? Are YOU a women addicted to porn? I would have put, Obviously not! but I never thought you would take me as really meaning you were. Being near 10 years older then you also gives me life experience. I never once said that men are my interested in romance or stupid at all. Neither did I insinuate it. My husband is extremely intelligent and smart. He also loves to be romantic as I do. With that being said he is, and most men are easily turned on by the physical without romance being mixed in the lot. It is not a prerequisite.  Women can be but to a much lesser extent. Women get more turned on so to speak wen romance is in the mix. It about the emotions for us not so much the physical. You could stand there buck naked all day and it may turn me on but not necessarily especially if I'm not in the mood and there's no romance in the mix. Flash skin at hubby and he's ready to go. It's no insult to men at all and there's nothing wrong with it. So don't go turning what I said into something it isn't. I love my husband and God made us different to complement each other and it's great. I love that he's like that's. He initiates the physical, I initiate the Romance and we have an awesome time. If it's done right. Anyhow. There's also a ton of research and statistics of you care to actually research and read that proves the differences in men and women but I'm pressed for time and I also think you should maybe Just take a look into it yourself.

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You are lucky perhaps. You just happen to live in a Christian environment. But the Christian reality that you live in doesn't apply to much of today's western society. However, speaking of your friends and your little sisters, I wouldn't be so quick to take their word for granted.

In college I was witness to group conversations in which both guys and girls openly bragged about the genres of porn they watch. I heard female colleagues talk about bondage and all kinds of twisted porn. About people tied upside down and the list goes on. It gave them good laughs. Their laughter was explosive and proud. It made me sick. They also went a couple of times to the apartment of one of the girls and had group sex. They are people who try to replicate the fantasies of porn in real life. I heard them speak about porn very openly.

If you were never on porn websites then you speak of something that you don't fully know. In the OP I already mentioned that genderwise, porn videos are not short of comments made by female users. Statistically, there are just as many female viewers as there are male. I would also like to know why dildos sell so well despite the fact that some cost as much as a washing machine or a TV set. Somebody is buying them.That's why they make them.

Did you know that about 60 to 70% of all data stored on the internet is pornographic content? Sounds rather impossible for all this content to exist because of men only.

J said:

Hi guys and ladies,

I was reading some of the comments here and all I want to share is that everyone has an opinion, that's fine, but the purpose of this forum is to help one another. Everyone has a personal story, and whether the statistics reflect one side over the other or 50/50 doesn't matter.

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Personally I don't see it as two sides. There are no men and women. There is only something called mankind. It's impossible for one gender to be happy if the other is not. Because of porn, young women are also in bad shape, no less than man. That is something that I know! They are in this porn induced bad shape which prevents them from giving us guys the love we need.

J said:

I hid it extremely well and no one that knows me would ever guessed that I was committing to the very thing I hated.

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As more and more people will become aware of Nofap in the coming years, hiding it will be next to impossible. In fact it's easy to see for those who know how to look (regardless of anyone's gender).

Why don't you share your story with us then?

J said:

Why don't you share your story with us then?

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This is only day 36 for me. Too early to share my story. But I can't wait.

@arcturus
I realise you ignored my post, but I will try again. Would you please be so kind and provide some backup for your arguments like "Statistically, there are just as many female viewers as there are male. " or "Did you know that about 60 to 70% of all data stored on the internet is pornographic content?" ?
You just can't use expressions like "statistically" and have nothing to prove your point, otherwise its meaningless.


You are describing personal experiences with females and males alike, and while they may be very traumatic, they are just personal experiences. They are not sufficient to come to conclusions about whole generations and gender groups.

By the way, sex toys are not necessarily related to porn use, there is a lot of fun a female/male or a couple can have with toys without porn.

I agree with tomte about the sex toys. Women use sex toys a lot yes, with and without partners. Nothing to do with porn. Yes, I know my sisters well... Sure there are lots of twisted people out there that take part in porn and porn fabtasies, male and female. I don't believe it is a women's natural tendency to gravitate towards Porn. Men are more visual (that's not an excuse for their porn use anymore then it would be that a women is more emotional therefore it's ok that women have emotional affairs all the time ), so therefore it is easier For them to get caught up in it. Women don't get so caught up in the visual/physical but more the emotional. Research it. Read on the covenant eyes site. There are many statistics  showing the majority of porn use is by men and etc... Anyhow. Hope you recover well and good luck to you. My thoughts are not merely opinion but more backed by research. When i first started this journey i refused to admit that men are more visual, I thought it was just an excuse but I do agree now.... Not necessarily that they are more visual I guess but that they can take the visual without the rest easier as we are more emotional and tend to need more then the visual.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLJm6XYrGh9DT0Xfq82riGrY0TMQEcyXMk&params=OAFIAVgl&v=JNsEdEZXhdE&mode=NORMAL

If it will work, copy and paste this link and watch the you tube video. I can't properly share the video on my phone for some reason. There are tons of food scientifically back videos on you tube by covenant eyes about how porn effects us etc watch them . Enjoy your new apartment!

Sex toys are just as bad as porn. They are artificial stimulation. Why would you do it in the first place? MO is weakness. For both men and women. It's pointless and useless. It only wires you to a dead object. It only wires you in such a way that you end up feeling like your man is not enough. 

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@arcturus
I realise you ignored my post, but I will try again. Would you please be so kind and provide some backup for your arguments

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Why would I bother to convince you of anything? What do I get if I do that?

Arcturus said:

Why would I bother to convince you of anything? What do I get if I do that?

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Well, why did you start this topic? The point of a forum is to exchange ideas, experiences and opinions. If you just want to unleash your narrow-minded theories without being interested in any other points of view or any critique, maybe just start writing a diary.

Tomte said:

Well, why did you start this topic? The point of a forum is to exchange ideas, experiences and opinions. If you just want to unleash your narrow-minded theories without being interested in any other points of view or any critique, maybe just start writing a diary.

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Excuse me, this must be some cultural misunderstanding... Perhaps you know more about American women than I do, because I've never been to America. I live in a rather small Eastern European country called Romania. People here are somewhat poorer than the Americans. There are less options when it comes to entertainment, hobbies, personal initiative. Like in all ex-communist countries, we are still struggling to put things in order, to find a cultural identity and a way of life. We, the young, have to work hard to find meaning, perhaps even harder than the Americans have to. We aren't sports fans either. Far from it. The only thing that is free and cheap is to sit at home and fap.

Maybe the truth that applies to women here does not apply to America. I can see that pretty much all young females here display anxiety and lifelessness typical of porn addiction. I can see it. You don't need to tell me that it's otherwise. Guys often complain that they have dead pussies, they can't get aroused or satisfied. Perhaps in other countries it's worse than you US nofappers imagine. America is a big country. The bigger the country, the better it holds together, whatever the problem.

I am not from the american continent, but since this isn't a matter of race, I don't see what difference it makes.

You still are just projecting your own opinion, and your buddies talking about "dead pussies" doesn't make your point any more valid.

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I am not from the american continent, but since this isn't a matter of race, I don't see what difference it makes.

You still are just projecting your own opinion, and your buddies talking about "dead pussies" doesn't make your point any more valid.

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Have I said anything about race? I sure didn't. You're the one projecting stuff... I just mentioned social/cultural circumstances and how that may play a role in people's awareness of this addiction.

Perhaps in your anonymous country there's less of a PMO epidemic and females are healthier in this respect. How about we exchange ID cards? What do you say?

If you study closely the public attitudes of ex-communist populations, you will see that there's very little public awareness towards health in general, let alone PMO/internet addictions. People tend to take their level of health for granted, whatever that may be, even those people with high incomes. So far only USA and Japan seem concerned with this PMO problem. And this is only the tip of the iceberg. 

True, you didn't. I know you are persistently ignoring my request, but would you be so kind and provide me with some sort of source/study about this mentality/epidemic in ex-communist countries? Or are this just your keen sociological observations?

Exchange IDs? Now why would we do that?