I know everyone keeps saying that masturbating during the reboot process can slow it down but what if you masturbate to former sexual expierences and a girl you know in real life. To me it seems like that would help the process imagining prior expierences but who knows. What do you guys think?
is this bad?
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@Spencer
Well, as I said many guys have done that before you and they usually say masturbating slowed recovery. However, we do not know how thinking about real women effects your reboot. If you decide to do it let us know how it goes. My advice is to avoid all M during the reboot.
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Alex
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My advice is to avoid any tipe of stimulation. Because every thing related to sex in your mind is also related to pornography and addiction, by stimulating it you will activate also the pathways of your addiction.
Stay strong
Stay strong
fcjl8
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I tried that in my first attempt to recover from decades of PMO, just masturbation and usually my own wife in the fantasy. It did not work for me, it led back to porn ultimately. I think the fantasies were just to much like the porn I had preferred??
I have made good progress in recovery since quitting M altogether.
I have made good progress in recovery since quitting M altogether.
Viper
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Alex said:My advice is to avoid any tipe of stimulation. Because every thing related to sex in your mind is also related to pornography and addiction, by stimulating it you will activate also the pathways of your addiction.
Stay strong
I couldn't have written this better. If there is a real woman in your
life to sorta do the heavy lifting, you may want to go that route instead.
The thing that worked for me the best was avoiding it altogether and paying special attention when I was with someone.
At first it was literally as simple as touching and really focusing on what that PHYSICAL sensation of someone's skin felt like. I think that one of the reasons why this is so hard is that there are really two things that healthy arousal uses - 1 - the physical sensation of being with someone (which porn doesn't replicate) but 2 - the mind perception of your partner's feelings, like "she wants to be with me" or "she really likes it" - THAT's what porn exploits to me. I found that when I was paying a lot more attention to her body my recovery improved. I think anyone can tell themselves that our partner loves something but when you really pay attention that's when you learn how to be a caring lover.
I started really plain vanilla, pay attention to kissing, touch, the intimacy. I really love certain positions but I catch myself thinking about how good they look rather than experiencing what I'm feeling. Being mindful and in the moment is both the biggest challenge and the biggest reward. When you get there it's almost like "I'm REALLY feeling this" as opposed to telling yourself that you are.
At first it was literally as simple as touching and really focusing on what that PHYSICAL sensation of someone's skin felt like. I think that one of the reasons why this is so hard is that there are really two things that healthy arousal uses - 1 - the physical sensation of being with someone (which porn doesn't replicate) but 2 - the mind perception of your partner's feelings, like "she wants to be with me" or "she really likes it" - THAT's what porn exploits to me. I found that when I was paying a lot more attention to her body my recovery improved. I think anyone can tell themselves that our partner loves something but when you really pay attention that's when you learn how to be a caring lover.
I started really plain vanilla, pay attention to kissing, touch, the intimacy. I really love certain positions but I catch myself thinking about how good they look rather than experiencing what I'm feeling. Being mindful and in the moment is both the biggest challenge and the biggest reward. When you get there it's almost like "I'm REALLY feeling this" as opposed to telling yourself that you are.
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Mart71
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After starting the reboot, I used to MO to real past experiences, not to porn fantasies. But right now masturbation doesn't feel good after my sex-life improved during the reboot. Meaning, real sex feels a lot better, even the orgasms are a lot more intense. Also I still have trouble staying hard during MO until the end, since when I approach O from MO, the erection actually gets weaker. I read this as my body telling me, to stop MO for the time being. Which I have done, currently I had only one MO in three months.
I MO'd maybe 8 times in the first two months of my reboot. I never felt better after them and I always needed time to "recover", which makes me believe MO is holding me back. Quitting MO was the logical thing to do.
I MO'd maybe 8 times in the first two months of my reboot. I never felt better after them and I always needed time to "recover", which makes me believe MO is holding me back. Quitting MO was the logical thing to do.