Need Help! Weird Fetish Porn Situation

Sorry guys for the really long post. I have described my weird sexual journey till date. I would really appreciate it if you could read my entire journey/ situation and let me know your thoughts and comments. So here goes:

The earliest memories I remember of feeling any sexual pleasure was when I was about 3-4 years old and I distinctly remember that the source of the pleasure was not from watching a woman in revealing clothing or any sexually suggestive posture; it was from watching a woman being held by the throat. As weird as it sounds the earliest memories of sexual excitement I have, all came from watching a woman being held by the throat in movies or TV shows or witnessing events in real life when someone playfully grabbed a woman or a girl by the throat. However, I also remember being turned on by looking at beautiful women that I encountered in real life or in movies, magazines, TV shows etc. Slowly as a few years went by, I remember being attracted to women?s nails, especially beautifully colored or manicured fingernails as well as toenails. I recollect trying to get a glimpse of the hands and feet of every attractive woman I encountered in order to check out her nails. Slowly, I believe somewhere down the line this propensity of mine to check out fingernails and toenails of all the women I came across led to me being increasingly turned on by feet. I began to have a very strong attraction to female feet. This was all before porn, I am sure of that. At this point, I was around 10-11 years old and I started to masturbate by lying on my bed, on my stomach and rubbing my penis on the bed. I had not yet reached puberty and hence didn?t ejaculate, but I remember doing this for long periods and experiencing great pleasure. While doing this, I would always fantasize about the scenes I had watched on TV of women being grabbed by the throat or of women?s feet or of the women I had encountered in my life.

Around the age of 13, for the first time I had access to the internet. I distinctly remember that the first time I had the computer to myself without anyone around, I took the opportunity to Google images of women being choked or held by the throat and I did not have any idea about sex or the mechanism of how people have sex at that point. I had no clue that women had something known as a vagina! I spent the next few months surfing for images and short video clips of women being choked or of women showing off their feet, whenever I had access to the computer and some privacy. This continued for a few years and I had found a few websites dedicated to foot fetish and a website centered on breath play which had pictures of women being choked. I hit puberty and discovered the traditional method of masturbation and continued masturbating to these two kinds of videos and images. Most of these videos and images did not contain any nudity and I was hardly exposed to a naked female body during this period. However, I would be incredibly turned on by images and videos catering to the fetishes I had developed. During this period, I used to notice only a woman?s neck and her feet and was never interested in or paid attention to any other part of her body. All my fantasies of the women and girls I came across during this time, would center on me grabbing them by the throat and choking them or admiring and being able to touch and kiss their feet. This continued for a good 3-4 years. I pretty much used to masturbate everyday either to these kinds of clips and images or my fantasies.

When I was around 19, I for the very first time in my life, I watched an actual porn clip i.e. a man and a woman naked and having sexual intercourse. To be honest, I wasn?t very excited by it and felt that my fetishes excited me far more. However, in due course I came across clips which combined sex and my fetishes i.e. of women being choked during sex and foot fetish porn (footjobs, foot licking etc leading to sex). This seemed to be the perfect blend for my sexual tastes and I started devouring this material and fapping to it constantly. At around this time, I got my own personal laptop and now I had access to high speed internet in the privacy of my room and my porn use skyrocketed. I used to spend hours browsing porn and edging to various clips and spent a lot of my money on buying fetish clips. My masturbation sessions would sometimes last 2-3 hours where I would edge to various clips before finally ejaculating. During, this period I had absolutely no sexual contact with a real woman. I come from a conservative country where intersexual contact and relations is not encouraged during teenage and early adulthood and pre-marital sex is still fairly taboo. I had a pretty decent level of confidence when I was 14 and before I became a chronic porn user. Hence, at that age I had a girlfriend but we never went past hold hands and light petting, I never even kissed her on the mouth. After we broke up and my porn use increased, my confidence plummeted and I became a social retard and kept away from girls. Additionally, I was extremely shameful of my fetishes and felt that no woman would want to be with me once they knew of my sexual tastes.

But as the years rolled by and I watched more porn and read more about sexuality, I discovered that a foot fetish was one of the most common fetishes and that quite a few women loved being submissive in bed and liked being dominated and even held by the throat and choked within safe limits. Coming to know these facts made me feel relatively better about myself. After all, I never had any desire to harm women in reality and on the contrary I absolutely loved and was fascinated by women. But I still had a lot of sexual shame which prevented me from being comfortable to pursue a romantic relationship with a woman. I was 24 and was in good old Thailand and since I had no prospects of securing a girlfriend, I decided to lose my virginity to a hooker. She was very attractive and I had no problems getting hard and she also slipped the condom on to my penis easily but I remember that throughout the lovemaking I was in my head and kept thinking to myself that now that I am finally physically being intimate with a woman, it doesn?t feel all that great. As I entered her and started thrusting, I practically felt no sensation in my penis. But she was into being choked and I began choking her lightly and this increased my excitement a bit and but still didn?t do anything big for me. I was amazed by this because this had been a strong fetish of mine and I remember that in my teenage years when I used to playfully grab a girl I knew by the throat, I would instantly get a rock hard erection. We continued having sex but I just wouldn?t finish and she had an orgasm or two and finally we switched to doggy style and I shut my eyes and managed to fantasize about something and was finally able to orgasm. After this experience, I didn?t know whether I should be happy that I lasted over 45 minutes or that there was some problem with me. I had never heard of DE and had only known about PE and felt kind of proud that I could go so long without coming. But somewhere deep down I had a feeling that my first sexual encounter had been a letdown and did not feel anywhere as good as my fapping sessions. However, I removed the thought from my head, returned to my country and life went on.

After losing my virginity, I secured a great job and this bolstered my confidence quite a lot. In that year I also came across some material relating to dating and seduction and I finally made a decision to overcome my shyness and start dating women. After a few months, I started getting good at interacting with women and finally started getting my dates into bed. In the meanwhile, my porn use had continued unabated and what had started as some rough sex and foot fetish videos had now escalated seriously. I now was watching foot worshiping videos where guys were being humiliated and trod on by women and this led to more femdom stuff. Guys being collared and treated as slaves by women, being told they were worthless, being beaten with belts, choked till they turned purple and humiliated for being worthless and having tiny dicks. It was this kind of stuff that turned me on now and I was fapping to these videos. I was shocked at myself because these were things that I used to previously be disgusted by. Femdom had made no sense to me and I had always been extremely turned off by any person exerting any dominance over me, let alone a woman. I was completely confused at this point, but I did my research online and came across the articles that claimed that a person?s sexuality evolves and that porn only reveals your hidden fetishes and sexual proclivities. Many ?sexperts? said that most men who like femdom initially have a resistance towards it as society doesn?t approve of men being submissive and that it is in the best interest of such men?s psychological well being that they get rid of this social stigma and become comfortable with the fact that they love being dominated by women. This assuaged my concerns a bit but I always felt that these kinds of things weren?t my authentic sexual tastes.

Coming back to my dating life, in the midst of all this, I now had started getting women into bed, but to my shock, I realised that I couldn?t get hard just by looking at them naked or even when they touched or tried to pleasure me with blowjobs or handjobs. Initially I reasoned that it was because they weren?t engaging my fetishes. So I gradually opened up and told a few women about my fetish for feet and my love of choking them during sex. To my surprise, most of them did not mind and quite a few wanted to be choked in bed and were really happy that I liked being dominant in bed. To my utter shock, though they let me play with their feet and choke them, I could not still get a full erection. My erections were weak and wouldn?t last till penetration. It was practically impossible to put on a condom. When they tried blowjobs or handjobs I did not feel any pleasure and in fact would feel bored after a while and wait till they stopped. Many women were offended, felt inadequate and were hurt as they thought I wasn?t attracted to them. I was confused and worried too and most them left and I made no effort in contacting them partly due to shame and partly because I did not want it to happen again. This happened even when I was stone cold sober, so I could not blame it on alcohol.

At this point, utterly devastated and looking for an answer I found NoFap, YBOP, Reboot Nation and other websites relating to porn addiction. I recently read Your Brain on Porn by Gary Wilson and many of the articles here. I have deleted all my fetish clips and have stayed off PMO for a week now. It?s just the beginning and I know I have a long road ahead. But I wanted to share this with you guys so I could get some advice and feedback. Please do let me know what you think of my situation. I feel it is a bit peculiar due to my fetishes and I feel I may not lose the fetishes I had before porn. But they seem harmless now and I would give anything to return to a state where I only have those fetishes and where I can have sex with a real woman. I desperately want to feel pleasure in my penis and my body and be able to relate to a woman. I am moving abroad for University and I think I will have plenty of opportunity to rewire with real women soon. But I intend to reboot and get rid of my addiction by then. Guys please feel free to give me any advice or tips. Having people who understand my weird sexual journey up until now would give me a lot of comfort and solace.

Thank you.
 

mousemat1

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I found it hard reading about your 'choking' fetish. I'm aware that some women enjoy this kind of thing but I'm just not comfortable with violence towards women.

I started contributing to a thread on this web site about fetishes but the discussing just petered out. I also have some fetishes. Incidentally, I have searched for pictures of women with immaculate finger nails. It turns me on. I don't know why, but it seems like a pretty innocuous fetish to have.

The problem I have with something like a 'choking' fetish is that, as you have reported, if you have the opportunity to act out on your fetish it often fails to excite you after a while and you need a stronger fetish. This is what Gary Wilson discusses in his videos and book. We become desensitised and need harder, more shocking porn. I just worry that your choking fetish might just escalate to the point where you actually cause real harm to a woman.

Your fetish developed before becoming aware of porn so it might just be innate. I'm not sure what you can do to eliminate it. Seeking counselling might help identify where the fetish comes from. How common is it to see women being held by the throat where you come from? Where I come from it's very rare, for all the obvious reasons.

You seem to be displaying some signs of desensitisation. You need new, choking things to get you excited. Stick to a hard reboot for a while and see if your fetishes fade.

Good luck!
 
Thank you for taking the time out and reading my post! Yes, I do understand your concerns about me becoming violent. It is this fear of people assuming so that has caused me so much fear and anxiety over the years. But the fact remains that I never had an urge to do anything non consensual with a woman ever. I have only indulged in this fetish with women who enjoyed it and wanted me to do it and it has never progressed to any real choking that might cause harm to a woman.

When I was younger, these weren't prerequisites to me being attracted to a woman. I used to be attracted just to her body and these were just things that made it more intense. And no it isn't common for women to be held by the throat where I live, I think the fetish was imprinted on my brain when I was very young probably from having watched a beautiful woman held by the throat in a movie or TV show. I have spent a great amount of time trying to figure out how this fetish developed through research and talking to others who like this and this is the best explanation I have got. I do want to reach a stage where I can have a full erection and pleasurable intercourse without any of these fetishes. But I fear these two might be innate. I hope I at least have a chance to get rid of my porn induced fetishes and develop sensitivity in my penis and my body towards a real partner.
 

mousemat1

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The reason I asked if it was common where you lived was because you wrote this,

"As weird as it sounds the earliest memories of sexual excitement I have, all came from watching a woman being held by the throat in movies or TV shows or witnessing events in real life when someone playfully grabbed a woman or a girl by the throat."

As I mentioned, I've never seen anyone grab women by the throat in real life.

Anyway, I suggest you stop watching porn. In the long run it will probably cause problems, if it hasn't already done so. Quit porn and see what fetishes remain. I have some harmless fetishes which I've had since before I saw porn and they have never diminished. They are not dangerous or particularly weird so they don't worry me and I could have successful sex even if the fetishised objects weren't present.

Good luck with your reboot! Stay strong and I hope your problems will resolve themselves.
 

malando

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That's an interesting story. The main feedback I have for you is to take the word "soon" out of your vocabulary! I think you have a combination of PIED and heightened sensitivity to fetishes which are going to seriously impact on your experiences with women. I would look at this as more of a long term project. You need to reboot for a considerable length of time, and also disengage from your fetishes in order to rewire. You won't be able to just "rewire with real women soon", as you put it. If you don't do a full reboot, your interactions with real women are likely to be very unsatisfactory, and this will lead to further issues regarding confidence and self-esteem. Don't be in a hurry to just fix this up. The problem was a very long time in the making and the solution is going to take a long time too. Your brain will not simply accept a new paradigm just because you lay off porn for a couple of months: it has laid down very powerful neural pathways that it will not part with easily. You need to drop this impatient tendency you have and play the long game. Try a total reboot for 3 months (no M, MO, no PMO, no interactions with women), and see how you're feeling then. There's a good chance you will still need more time. You have to weaken the hold that your fetishes have on you if you expect a real sexual encounter to go well. Normal people do not react the way your fantasy enriched brain imagines they will or would like them to. The only solution is to weaken the fetish, not to try to act out your fetish with real women. And any woman who is happy to participate in your fetish is likely to mess you up by feeding your problem.

In short, be patient, take your time. Good luck.

[moderator's note to "fetishpornaddict": I have deleted your duplicate thread in the Porn Addiction section. It is preferred that the same threads do not appear in different parts of the forum as it creates confusion and difficulty with communication. I have kept this one since it already has multiple replies.]
 
Thank you Malando for the valuable advice. Yes, I totally understand what you mean. My habits and fetishes have been reinforced over several years. In fact for more than a decade! It pains me to think about it now. I have spent hundreds of hours indulging my fetish and masturbating and edging to porn.

I know that a 90 days hard reboot is a must and I have also read many accounts of people who needed far more than that to get back to normalcy. But I have one query though. I realize that during my reboot I have to completely lay off porn, masturbation, orgasm and fantasy. But when you say I have to lay off real women as well, do you mean I have to stay away from being sexual with women or do I have to avoid even dates and interaction with women. I am starting University soon and I really hope to meet tons of people including women in the first few weeks of college. My shyness and introversion were some of the prime factors that pushed me towards more porn and masturbation in my teens. I have worked very hard over the last couple of years to improve my social and dating skills and only recently have I been seeing positive changes in this regard.

I really do not want to go back into a shell again, this time for the sake of the reboot as I think that might lead me to my old habits. Could you please advise me on this. What would be the do's and dont's when interacting with women during my reboot.
 

malando

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fetishpornaddict said:
I really do not want to go back into a shell again, this time for the sake of the reboot as I think that might lead me to my old habits. Could you please advise me on this. What would be the do's and dont's when interacting with women during my reboot.

I guess there are a few ways you could go about this, but I certainly don't think you should go to bed with somebody against your better judgement. I can imagine a few possible approaches:

1) The fictitious girlfriend: you have a girlfriend "back home" or somewhere far away. You don't want to cheat on her, but you are cool with hanging out with girls and being friends. You can always break up with her later once you are recovered.

2) You steer conversations away from the flirtatious, and on to more platonic levels - this can be tricky if a girl is very persistent. In that case, find a way to excuse yourself and avoid her.

3) You tell any girl that's pushing for more that you aren't up for anything at the moment, or you are getting over somebody, you aren't ready to get involved with anybody at this stage. You're just keeping it simple for a while.

4) Tell the truth, you have a porn addiction and you are going full reboot. Probably not an option you are going to take, but in theory it's an option.

It's up to you which approach you take, but it's not like women are demanding minxes who simply won't take no for an answer. You can make a decision for your own good and stand by it for your own reasons. You don't owe somebody an explanation for why you don't want to have sex with them. And don't forget, you can't have sex with them yet anyway! So what's the point? You might as well recover first and save yourself any more trauma. You have to fix this first before you are any good to anyone in an intimate sense.
 
Thank you for those great tips. Yes, I agree letting a girl know the truth would be very hard. But I think it would help me get rid of a lot of shame if I told a girl about this. I probably won't do it, unless I like the girl a lot and trust her and don't want to end up pushing her away by trying to avoid contact with her.

Also, I have read a lot of contrary views about the topic of how do you test whether you are recovered. Do I try masturbation without porn or fantasy once I am done with 90 days or try if possible to get into a intimate encounter with a girl and see how it goes?

Thank you for the support. I am on my 15th day of Reboot and going good as of now!

 
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