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I'm currently in a flatline (I was feeling VERY horny after a long reboot, but had too much sex too soon). (3-4 times a night with different girls 4 days in a row. No orgasm, but edging very hard which amounts to the same thing in my opinion, i feel like I "fried my brain", same feeling i used to get after long edging sessions.) This spiraled me into flatline again.
What is more productive?!
(option a) Hardmode, no touching, kissing, playing around with girls until there's stronger natural erections / desire to do so, and then gradually re-introduce? (Logic - if you're doing that and you're deep in flatline, you kinda feel some anxiety and your dopamine crashes even further.)
(option b) Hardmore, but also some light touching / kissing, and setting the expectation that you're not going to have sex, despite being in a hard flatline? (Logic - it's helpful to touch girls)
Also, I wonder if it makes sense to avoid seeking the company of many new women on a regular basis, to stop that "novelty seeking" pattern we're all too familiar with. It's relatively easy for me to meet new girls, I wonder if it makes sense to stop that for a while and just spend time with a few or 1 of the regulars (again, no PMO-ing, but in some capacity).
Guys, thanks for taking the time to read this. I've seen many inspirational stories here, and many great minds commenting and giving helpful advice =)
**Additional context ***
28, I quit porn many 3 years ago, and haven't MOd or watched porn since (and even recently deleted IG because it's too much like porn ha). It feels like i've been stuck in a rut though. I experienced total recovery, but then went back to no porn but edging / masturbation, which sent me back to flatline after edging really hard for a longg time (guess my brain was just overwhelmed and pulled the plug). I didn't know that edging was bad for you (and by the way, I started porn when I was pretty young, so i'm pretty sure the (edging = bad) connection has to do with my brain's associating it with all the porn use, not just in and of itself). Also, I noticed that when I was having too much sex too fast, it would again send my into flatline. But more than anything it was the edging with no porn-use that did that.
Most recently, what sent me back was "edging" but with girls (what started off as Karezza, turned into edging)... again, did it wayyy too much, wayyyy too soon. I think if I had just taken it easier, it would have been OK. So now, I'm committed to just slowing things down, not edging (focusing more on Karezza, sharing intimacy and not even thinking of orgasm), not constantly seeking out new partners, and living other parts of my life to the fullest. It's been really frustrating to essentially "fully recover" and then again go back into flatline. The plus though, I've seen the other side in all it's mighty glory - (what feels like full recovery), and boys, it is a beautiful place to be. Good luck everybody! Thanks again for the time.
I'm currently in a flatline (I was feeling VERY horny after a long reboot, but had too much sex too soon). (3-4 times a night with different girls 4 days in a row. No orgasm, but edging very hard which amounts to the same thing in my opinion, i feel like I "fried my brain", same feeling i used to get after long edging sessions.) This spiraled me into flatline again.
What is more productive?!
(option a) Hardmode, no touching, kissing, playing around with girls until there's stronger natural erections / desire to do so, and then gradually re-introduce? (Logic - if you're doing that and you're deep in flatline, you kinda feel some anxiety and your dopamine crashes even further.)
(option b) Hardmore, but also some light touching / kissing, and setting the expectation that you're not going to have sex, despite being in a hard flatline? (Logic - it's helpful to touch girls)
Also, I wonder if it makes sense to avoid seeking the company of many new women on a regular basis, to stop that "novelty seeking" pattern we're all too familiar with. It's relatively easy for me to meet new girls, I wonder if it makes sense to stop that for a while and just spend time with a few or 1 of the regulars (again, no PMO-ing, but in some capacity).
Guys, thanks for taking the time to read this. I've seen many inspirational stories here, and many great minds commenting and giving helpful advice =)
**Additional context ***
28, I quit porn many 3 years ago, and haven't MOd or watched porn since (and even recently deleted IG because it's too much like porn ha). It feels like i've been stuck in a rut though. I experienced total recovery, but then went back to no porn but edging / masturbation, which sent me back to flatline after edging really hard for a longg time (guess my brain was just overwhelmed and pulled the plug). I didn't know that edging was bad for you (and by the way, I started porn when I was pretty young, so i'm pretty sure the (edging = bad) connection has to do with my brain's associating it with all the porn use, not just in and of itself). Also, I noticed that when I was having too much sex too fast, it would again send my into flatline. But more than anything it was the edging with no porn-use that did that.
Most recently, what sent me back was "edging" but with girls (what started off as Karezza, turned into edging)... again, did it wayyy too much, wayyyy too soon. I think if I had just taken it easier, it would have been OK. So now, I'm committed to just slowing things down, not edging (focusing more on Karezza, sharing intimacy and not even thinking of orgasm), not constantly seeking out new partners, and living other parts of my life to the fullest. It's been really frustrating to essentially "fully recover" and then again go back into flatline. The plus though, I've seen the other side in all it's mighty glory - (what feels like full recovery), and boys, it is a beautiful place to be. Good luck everybody! Thanks again for the time.