1.5 years into reboot. feeling stuck... just had epiphany tho. Advice PLZ!

So long story short, like the title says I'm about 1.5 years into the whole thing and I've made tremendous strides BUT i figured i should feel a lot better that i actually do. So ill quickly list the main issues I'm facing right now...

1. Insomnia is still severely bad. i can't fall asleep on my own anymore with a prescription sleeping pill. and even with that, i don't sleep the entire night.

2. Still flatlined. I do get occasional morning wood after a decent night of sleep (decent meaning about 4.5 hours total, not consecutive, smh). Lately i have even been getting solid boners during the day from thinking about this girl i have been somewhat dating. that happened on the way home from work the other day and i kept the boner a good 10 mins while driving home.

3. I still have these headaches that never went away since April of last year (they last all day long, & the only time i kinda don't feel them is when I'm getting in a good workout)

4. My lung volume and breathing isn't good at all right now. Now I've read a couple guys relate this the rebooting process as a withdrawal symptom too & i kind of believe it. I have asthma and it hasn't really been a concern since i started rebooting.

5 My short term memory is still awful. Its shown some improvements over the stretch but now I'm worried about it because ill be given a more challenging task at work that will require my memory to be sharp and I'm nervous about it.

So those are my main concerns. MY EPIPHANY is this: I set out to initially do hard mode & i failed to do so because i would masturbate ignorantly a few times since i began (I think since i started it was like a total of 8 times). I never viewed porn again since like probably my first or second month into reboot because everyone knows its hard to overcome urges at that early stage. So porn was never an issue again. But thinking back i don't think i did a long enough streak of NO FAP! like my aim was to never do it but i don't think i did a 90 day no cap ever, except MAYBE once. Like i would be doing well not even thinking about doing it, then an urge would over take me & honestly i think it'd happen before 90 days each time, smh. (id have to go back and look at my post to be sure) I last tapped in early february, so now I'm hoping that by me committing to never do it again, like my initial plan, that ill see some major improvements in 90 days (around May). if not I'm really now sure what I'm going to do. Im nervous about losing my job too because of not being able to handle this new task at work.

Like always some advice, comments or questions are always welcomed!

THANKS
 
Death Trap said:
I'm confused too. Have you transitioned to sex, and if not, why not?

I guess I was just hoping for somebody to attest to the 90 day no fap theory & if they think it would help out a lot with my situation. I'm holding out on sex again until marriage, religious reasons
 

misc person 86

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I think as long as you've still given up porn you'll still be making improvements. I hate how non linear the recovery is, but depending on how bad your PIED was, your journey could legitimately be taking as long as it is. Try hard mode again maybe, if you feel it helps? Try rebooting with a partner? MW ain't the be all and end all of recovery success. Having sex is.
 

kesam

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Just like you are using religion to avoid engaging in premarital sex, use it to keep away from porn and  masturbation(& "dirty" thoughts).
 

Death Trap

Active Member
With regard to sleeping:

I use melatonin supplements to help me fall asleep. Your brain naturally produces melatonin when the sun goes down, but taking a supplement can help. I also take some magnesium chelate, which you can read up on. There's also this breathing technique you can do to help you fall asleep--believe it or not, it actually works very well. Let me know if you're interested.

So, even though I'm not religious myself, I will certainly respect your choice in this regard. Just so we are clear here: your beliefs also forbid you to go on dates, and fool around with girls, right? You're trying to remain completely chaste until you marry? In my opinion, that's going to be tough.
 
kesam said:
Just like you are using religion to avoid engaging in premarital sex, use it to keep away from porn and  masturbation(& "dirty" thoughts).

Yea that's been my goal. I failed a few times like I mentioned because you know, nobody changes overnight. My determination is much stronger now though! Thanks for commenting!
 
Death Trap said:
With regard to sleeping:

I use melatonin supplements to help me fall asleep. Your brain naturally produces melatonin when the sun goes down, but taking a supplement can help. I also take some magnesium chelate, which you can read up on. There's also this breathing technique you can do to help you fall asleep--believe it or not, it actually works very well. Let me know if you're interested.

So, even though I'm not religious myself, I will certainly respect your choice in this regard. Just so we are clear here: your beliefs also forbid you to go on dates, and fool around with girls, right? You're trying to remain completely chaste until you marry? In my opinion, that's going to be tough.

I take melatonin almost every night, along with an additional sleeping aid. The melatonin doesn't ever help me. I've also been taking the magnesium chelate about a week or 2 ago. I guess I could try taking them on their own, but I'm like pretty sure they won't have much affect. My mind just won't doze off no matter how long I lay in bed. Except if I take the sleeping pills, however now I'm pretty sure the sleeping pills are making me very constipated and messing with my appetite. Maybe even making me short of breath, smh. I'm a real wreck right now. I tried a breathing technique before and it helped for a little bit. I'm definitely open to yours!

In regard to my religion and dating, there's no forbidden on dates. In fact I've been on a few with a female I work with. Just keeping things platonic. In a couple years I'll be 40 and I'm more interested in finding a lady who could become my wife.
 
andyjee86 said:
I think as long as you've still given up porn you'll still be making improvements. I hate how non linear the recovery is, but depending on how bad your PIED was, your journey could legitimately be taking as long as it is. Try hard mode again maybe, if you feel it helps? Try rebooting with a partner? MW ain't the be all and end all of recovery success. Having sex is.

Yea honestly I knew my reboot would take a long time. I really went over board with pmo and was in denial about how addicted I was. Of I realize that mw isn't the end game but if you understood how flatlined I was you'd know I've come a very long way! My hope is that I can continue dating this girl and eventually that will push my rebooting process along even further.
 

Death Trap

Active Member
byhisgraceillmakeit said:
Death Trap said:
With regard to sleeping:

I use melatonin supplements to help me fall asleep. Your brain naturally produces melatonin when the sun goes down, but taking a supplement can help. I also take some magnesium chelate, which you can read up on. There's also this breathing technique you can do to help you fall asleep--believe it or not, it actually works very well. Let me know if you're interested.

So, even though I'm not religious myself, I will certainly respect your choice in this regard. Just so we are clear here: your beliefs also forbid you to go on dates, and fool around with girls, right? You're trying to remain completely chaste until you marry? In my opinion, that's going to be tough.

I take melatonin almost every night, along with an additional sleeping aid. The melatonin doesn't ever help me. I've also been taking the magnesium chelate about a week or 2 ago. I guess I could try taking them on their own, but I'm like pretty sure they won't have much affect. My mind just won't doze off no matter how long I lay in bed. Except if I take the sleeping pills, however now I'm pretty sure the sleeping pills are making me very constipated and messing with my appetite. Maybe even making me short of breath, smh. I'm a real wreck right now. I tried a breathing technique before and it helped for a little bit. I'm definitely open to yours!

In regard to my religion and dating, there's no forbidden on dates. In fact I've been on a few with a female I work with. Just keeping things platonic. In a couple years I'll be 40 and I'm more interested in finding a lady who could become my wife.
Ok. First, I would advise you not to take sleeping pills, since you are right that they are pretty bad for you. Melatonin and magnesium, although not as strong as prescription or otc sleeping aids, are at least natural. I used to take sleeping pills a lot, and have come to the conclusion that they are simply awful.

As far as falling asleep, you need to slow your mind down, which is what the breathing techniques accomplish (the magnesium and melatonin just provide a push). You can simply count your breaths; slow down your breaths; or perform mental operations like counting back from 100 by sixes. The breathing technique I've been using is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz4G31LGyog

It sounds crazy, but it actually works really well!

So, the reason I was asking about your sexual options as a religious believer is because, in my opinion, it's really hard for most men to be chaste for long periods of time. The 90 day reboot period is great, but once you get to like 6 months or more it can be a disaster.
 
Death Trap said:
byhisgraceillmakeit said:
Death Trap said:
With regard to sleeping:

I use melatonin supplements to help me fall asleep. Your brain naturally produces melatonin when the sun goes down, but taking a supplement can help. I also take some magnesium chelate, which you can read up on. There's also this breathing technique you can do to help you fall asleep--believe it or not, it actually works very well. Let me know if you're interested.

So, even though I'm not religious myself, I will certainly respect your choice in this regard. Just so we are clear here: your beliefs also forbid you to go on dates, and fool around with girls, right? You're trying to remain completely chaste until you marry? In my opinion, that's going to be tough.

I take melatonin almost every night, along with an additional sleeping aid. The melatonin doesn't ever help me. I've also been taking the magnesium chelate about a week or 2 ago. I guess I could try taking them on their own, but I'm like pretty sure they won't have much affect. My mind just won't doze off no matter how long I lay in bed. Except if I take the sleeping pills, however now I'm pretty sure the sleeping pills are making me very constipated and messing with my appetite. Maybe even making me short of breath, smh. I'm a real wreck right now. I tried a breathing technique before and it helped for a little bit. I'm definitely open to yours!

In regard to my religion and dating, there's no forbidden on dates. In fact I've been on a few with a female I work with. Just keeping things platonic. In a couple years I'll be 40 and I'm more interested in finding a lady who could become my wife.
Ok. First, I would advise you not to take sleeping pills, since you are right that they are pretty bad for you. Melatonin and magnesium, although not as strong as prescription or otc sleeping aids, are at least natural. I used to take sleeping pills a lot, and have come to the conclusion that they are simply awful.

As far as falling asleep, you need to slow your mind down, which is what the breathing techniques accomplish (the magnesium and melatonin just provide a push). You can simply count your breaths; slow down your breaths; or perform mental operations like counting back from 100 by sixes. The breathing technique I've been using is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz4G31LGyog

It sounds crazy, but it actually works really well!

So, the reason I was asking about your sexual options as a religious believer is because, in my opinion, it's really hard for most men to be chaste for long periods of time. The 90 day reboot period is great, but once you get to like 6 months or more it can be a disaster.

first lemme start by saying that i was replying at work on my cell phone while trying to be discrete lol, ill be 30 in couple of years, not 40 lol
yea I've read up on sleeping pills and i know they are not great for you but i feel like I'm in a bind! on one hand i need to get sleep for work & the sleeping pill is the only thing that can make me fall asleep well enough. & on the other hand I'm starting o realize that the pill might be whats been causing me very bad constipation & also I've read that it can cause shortness of breath in rare cases. being sleep deprived its taking its own toll on my body & ill never be fully recovered unless i start getting some. Ive never been a fan of prescription drugs, but I'm pretty desperate for sleep. I haven't gotten a full 8 hours of sleep since probably towards the end of 2015, when i first decided to reboot.

i understand your idea that its hard for men to be chaste for long periods but honestly i don't think thats an issue for me anymore. because hell dude, being addicted to porn from 2010-2015 eventually kept me from having sex anyway because of PIED, so thats no big deal

ill check that breathing technique tonight, thanks for sharing that info brother!
 
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