29 Yr Old with PIED

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8radishes

Guest
Apologies if I'm not allowed to cross-post. I posted this in the 20-29 forum, but I think I have PIED, so I wanted to cover all bases for getting feedback.

Hi Reboot Nation,

This is my virgin entry here. Looking for insight and support, and to help out others, too

Backstory: I'm 29 years old, and I discovered NoFap (via Reddit) last December.

I started fapping around 13-14 years old. Got high-speed internet and porn access around 14-15, and the rest is a history of daily-to-many-times-daily masturbation. For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any developed fetishes/preferencees that I didn't already have before porn. I've never had a wet dream in my life. Spontaneous boners, sex drive, and morning wood are, and have always been, a daily occurrence for me - so there is nothing for me to observe during NoFap regarding changes in these indicators.

My first sexual relationship was around the age of 15-16, a 3-month relationship maybe. I didn't have trouble with erections, but we never had full-on intercourse. Lots of satisfying hand jobs and blow jobs ending in orgasm. My next sexual relationship was around 20 when I lost my virginity. I didn't get much pleasure during this fling of a few weeks, and I had sporadic success, but mostly failure, with my erection. I could stay hard during making out and oral, but would lose it at the moment of full-on intercourse (save maybe a few pumps). From here on out, over the years, I've had opportunities with maybe 9-10 women, but they've all ended tragically the same: we date; she sleeps over; when it's time to penetrate her vagina, I lose my erection (I even lose it during oral); and I eventually break up with her because "I'm not into it." Last December was my latest failure with a woman, so I decided to do some research in hopes of finding a solution to my erectile dysfunction.

Diet: Coincidence or not, I started having these sexual problems after becoming vegetarian at age 19. I've been vegan since age 23. I sometimes worry that I may deficient in some micronutrients, although very basic blood tests at my doctor's office have been satisfactory. I'm supplementing with a daily multivitamin, zinc, and fenugreek seed extract, the latter which I've found connected to some positive clinical trials on ED/libido recovery. My testosterone blood tests have always yielded results within a healthy range.

Reboot Status/Journal

December 2015: I discover NoFap on Reddit and begin educating myself. I start my reboot and I also, for the most part, stop smoking weed (I was a daily user for years). I reach a NoFap streak of 68 days. I go on soft mode, so there are lot of glimpses at porn and masturbating but stopping short of orgasm. Around day 8 and on, I start having extremely vivid dreams (most are nightmares, but some are sexually pleasant despite always ending before penetration (I've never successfully had sex in a dream, ever)). I recall that around days 15-30 I feel a huge flatline: irritability, lack of motivation, sleeping in late, and inability to focus on my professional work. I recall that around day ~40 and on, the flatline goes away and my sleep and motivation improve, as well as my ability to concentrate on my professional work. My penis feels increased sensitivity to my own touch and I feel as though I may have more rigidity down there.

March - April 2015: After my relapse, I go another 15-20 days on NoFap, but I then relapse. As of 4/3/16, I'm on day 16 of hard mode - no porn and no masturbation at all - and I feel as though I'm in another flatline (poor diet, sleep, lack of exercise and motivation, and struggling to focus on professional work), despite having several months of, for the most part, abstinence from porn and masturbation. I've started dating a girl I met online and an old crush is showing interest now that she is newly single. I've made out with both of these girls, but I have a constant fear of returning ED that is definitely motivating my thoughts and probably keeping me from moving faster with these girls.


Current state of mind: If you read my entry, thank you so much! Right now, I'm just worried that I'm going to be one of those guys who requires a year or longer to successfully reboot. I haven't been perfect since starting my reboot last December, but I don't feel as though I've made many gains in my sexual health during this considerable amount of time. Still no wet dreams, which I find a bit unsettling. I want to have sexual intercourse with one or both of the girls I'm seeing right now, but I'm obviously not confident in my ability to perform.

Any and all thoughts are welcome. Thank you, again.
 
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Numez

Guest
yup, sounds like until 2017 or 18 you will not be fully recovered. its alright though. anyone who had PIED for years will not recover any faster.

masturbation can cause a lot of peeking and edging and edging is the worst part of PMO. consider quitting MO too if you more than serious about recovery.
 
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8radishes

Guest
Numez said:
yup, sounds like until 2017 or 18 you will not be fully recovered. its alright though. anyone who had PIED for years will not recover any faster.

masturbation can cause a lot of peeking and edging and edging is the worst part of PMO. consider quitting MO too if you more than serious about recovery.

I appreciate the honesty, I guess? If I'm to assume you're correct, then I might as well stop dating the girls I'm seeing now. I have no interest in dating someone for 12+ months without sex, and I'm sure they won't either.
 

ilovemyhand

Active Member
If we are talking about reboot length without relapses (i.e. no P or M) guys recover from PIED anywhere from a month to a year and a half. A year and a half reboot without any P or M being on the lengthy side as far as the duration of reboots is concerned.

Virgins that've started using high-speed internet porn at the onset of puberty usually take the longest, while older guys who've had plenty of sexual experience before developing PIED usually recover the fastest. Besides staying away from P&M it helps to work on rewiring to the real deal; not necessarily by attempting sex, but rather stuff like talking to potential mates and also kissing, cuddling and affectionate touching are all reported to decrease recovery time.

I suggest that you go to www.yourbrainonporn.com and just read & watch the material there for the next few days - it's important to have a reliable and balanced understanding of what you're dealing with, and YBOP is probably far better in that regard then what any of us random forum lurkers can offer you.

Good luck! :)
 
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8radishes

Guest
ilovemyhand said:
If we are talking about reboot length without relapses (i.e. no P or M) guys recover from PIED anywhere from a month to a year and a half. A year and a half reboot without any P or M being on the lengthy side as far as the duration of reboots is concerned.

Virgins that've started using high-speed internet porn at the onset of puberty usually take the longest, while older guys who've had plenty of sexual experience before developing PIED usually recover the fastest. Besides staying away from P&M it helps to work on rewiring to the real deal; not necessarily by attempting sex, but rather stuff like talking to potential mates and also kissing, cuddling and affectionate touching are all reported to decrease recovery time.

I suggest that you go to www.yourbrainonporn.com and just read & watch the material there for the next few days - it's important to have a reliable and balanced understanding of what you're dealing with, and YBOP is probably far better in that regard then what any of us random forum lurkers can offer you.

Good luck! :)

Thanks for your comment. I've spent many hours reading articles and videos relating to YourBrainOnPorn, so I think I'm good on that. It's just a matter of staying in compliance with the reboot and waiting for my brain to heal.
 
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Numez

Guest
8radishes, 1-2 years for full recovery but you will be having sex pretty soon. weak erections and little sensitivity but its excellent for rewiring so date girls, recovery can be quicker if you date them.

1-2 years are for cravings to completely subside, full libido and sensitivity to come back and stuff like that (to be fully recovered). sex may not be the best in the first few months but you can still do it and surely date girls. do a lot of cuddling and things like that.

i had a streak of 300 days and i was around 70-80% recovered from PIED. i was able to have sex after 30-40 days. some good some bad days but it was getting better every month.
 
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8radishes

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Numez said:
8radishes, 1-2 years for full recovery but you will be having sex pretty soon...

Thanks so much for elaborating. A little more optimistic now.
 
I just stopped weed after years of daily use.

the dreams I can totally relate to, crazy vivid. that's due to the REM rebound that happens cuz weed suppresses it.

don't worry about the length of your reboot, with porn out of your life  it will happen and you will be fixed, in meantime no pixels , so no Facebook , ect

neuroplasticity. neurons that fire together wire together. so anything that turns you on that's no real is reinforcing pied.

best to stay away from all tv and internet ( as much as possible)
so the neurons that fired together slowly die. in meantime just talking and socializing with real women will help build back the natural sex pathways
 
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8radishes

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lookingforafix said:
best to stay away from all tv and internet ( as much as possible)
so the neurons that fired together slowly die. in meantime just talking and socializing with real women will help build back the natural sex pathways

Thanks for your reply. I work as a web journalist, so staying away from internet is difficult. I'll keep this in mind considering all of my free time, though. Thank you.
 
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