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saneagain

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Time travel
« on: April 20, 2017, 10:57:07 AM »
Lately my mind bombards me with flashbacks of porn movies I watched when I was 16 or 17. I have almost forgot about these movies.

Yesterday I was playing piano when suddenly I remember a scene which I have not thought about in YEARS. It pops up right in front of my inner eye. From fuckin' nowhere.

Is there a scientific explanation to this?

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 07:06:25 PM »
As I stated in another thread, the depressing thing about porn addiction (as opposed to heroin addiction) is that the fix is permanently in your brain in the form of images you've encountered previously. This is according to an addiction expert I once saw quoted from University of Pennsylvania. I don't know what day you're on, but they become much less insistent. They don't even make me pause anymore.

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 07:31:05 PM »
The porn pathways are still in your brain. They will always be there even when weakened. I still have memories of my first porn experiences. Sometimes they'll flash up in my mind.

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 02:50:20 AM »
I know the fix is in my brain. I just find it interesting that earlier into my reboot I had flashbacks of porn images I saw during the last months. Now my brain seems to come up with images I consumed many years ago.

I thought it may be a sign that the addiction is coming of in layers or something? First layers to remove was the most recent porn. With progressing into my reboot the brain removes/combats the layers which were created earlier. That's just a theory of mine. It's not just one movie. Lots of scenes come up to my mind which I consumed during the time I was 15-20. I have not thought about them for years.

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2017, 04:21:52 AM »
I think meditation and control of your mind is what you need. I need it too, but I suppose in some ways I am lucky because I have a terrible memory. I do still get porn scenes pop into my head but I can't remember any past a couple of years. For me novelty was a big factor, something different each time or someone different, I found after Pmo, I would forget about it, probably because I felt so shameful about it.

Exercising hard can change the pathways in your head, I do this from time to time. I should be more regular at it but sometimes family life doesn't permit it. Also try to keep your mind active all the time, take up hobbies, be productive, the longer you can keep away from porn he less you will remember and the easier it will become

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 07:48:02 AM »
I know the fix is in my brain. I just find it interesting that earlier into my reboot I had flashbacks of porn images I saw during the last months. Now my brain seems to come up with images I consumed many years ago.

I thought it may be a sign that the addiction is coming of in layers or something? First layers to remove was the most recent porn. With progressing into my reboot the brain removes/combats the layers which were created earlier. That's just a theory of mine. It's not just one movie. Lots of scenes come up to my mind which I consumed during the time I was 15-20. I have not thought about them for years.
I see what you're saying, and I've had the exact same experience whereby super old porn scenes and images will pop into my head from time to time. I started mastubating to porn during the dial up internet days, and I've had images come into my mind from those days a few times. I really don't have a theory about it.
I think meditation and control of your mind is what you need. I need it too, but I suppose in some ways I am lucky because I have a terrible memory. I do still get porn scenes pop into my head but I can't remember any past a couple of years. For me novelty was a big factor, something different each time or someone different, I found after Pmo, I would forget about it, probably because I felt so shameful about it.

Exercising hard can change the pathways in your head, I do this from time to time. I should be more regular at it but sometimes family life doesn't permit it. Also try to keep your mind active all the time, take up hobbies, be productive, the longer you can keep away from porn he less you will remember and the easier it will become

Daily mindfulness meditation is probably the closest thing to a magic bullet in dealing with these things. The problem is that it takes immense patience and practice.

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2017, 03:55:18 PM »
I thought it may be a sign that the addiction is coming of in layers or something?
this is exactly what i read on YBOP few days ago. someone reported having the same experience as you and also said its like layers coming off. probably true. how long is your streak?
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Re: Time travel
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 07:00:54 AM »
I am on a streak of 147 days without porn. After 100 days I MOed twice and had an orgasm with a hooker. It was more because of curiosity, not cravings to MO or have sex. I simply did not know whether my pain is coming from withdrawal or some other health issue. But nothing changed. So I continue without P,M or O. I seem to have a PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome). I don't have cravings to watch P or MO. This is what people call flatline probably. For me it is just part of my PAWS. I feel like I could go without sex or MO forever. It's kind of a zombie-mode: Brain fog, tightness and pain all over my body, bad memory and concentration, anxiety, shaking and so on.

There is no point for starting from day zero because of MO or sex as long as you don't do it frequently. Everything is progress. I am not going to MO until I am healthy anyway.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2017, 07:09:34 AM by saneagain »

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 07:25:06 AM »
challenge yourself to have some free sex. when you say nothing changed, you mean you still have PIED?
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Re: Time travel
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 11:02:11 AM »
challenge yourself to have some free sex. when you say nothing changed, you mean you still have PIED?

I don't need sex now. I feel sick. I described some of my symptoms here and some in an other thread. I sure will have sex again in the future. But the most important thing now is improving my health to the point where I can sleep properly, work out properly, run properly and have a clear mind to finish my university degree. To get there I will abstain as long as it is needed. It is really THAT BAD that I can't continue studying. No words to describe it.

For me a relapse is something that NEVER EVER will happen for the rest of my life. You still seem to have it not that bad as I do. Otherwise you would understand.

Porn is not just a little guilty pleasure. It has ruined my health massively.

Look at this excerpt from a book from 1870: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3pj2es/effects_of_masturbation_from_an_old_book/

Or this shit: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/5pndd2/a_word_of_warning_to_fappers/

I have lots of these symptoms. The ancients were right about this shit. IT KILLS YOU.

EDIT: I could get hard with the hooker. But only with stimulation and not 100%. And I came really quick. So yeah it's PIED & PE. And all the other withdrawal symptoms.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2017, 12:11:14 PM by saneagain »

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Re: Time travel
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 06:26:37 AM »
Dear All...One method I used from NLP/self Hypnosis can help you guys.
I've listed some of them in my hackbook site under 'Experimental' as they are not directly connected to 'Easy Method' .
https://sites.google.com/site/hackbookeasypeasy/home/06-01-experimental
" After every slip/lapse - Spot one thought that brought the image in, destroy and diminish that image. Convert to B&W and Stamp-size it !!!. Convert the actors to ugly looking goblins. Convert the voice to 'buccal Donald Duck's voice'."
For example- I'd work on the porn stars image and convert it to tiny little stamp sized B&W image and uglify it as much as possible.

By diminishing, uglifying and by distorting the memories ( attack all the 5 senses - fantasy, sight/ image, voice etc) you will neutralize them.
Do this consciously - slowly and steadily they don't hold the same power no more.
PS: I've written a hackbook based on a very effective method. It does not use the Willpower method or scare tactics or brain science.
http://www.rebootnation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11997.0