Relapsed and DE is back

Camouflage

Active Member
I was pretty much porn free for the entire year 2015. I also kept masturbation to a minimum, including several streaks of 30+ days. I saw very good progress in my DE problem. In the beginning of this year I actually considered myself cured, and it made me sloppy. I started masturbating and ended up doing a couple of full blown pmo sessions. I thought that I could get away with it, but just today I had sex with my girlfriend and I was unable to climax. :( This sucks guys, it sucks bad. Is my entire year of progress down the drain?
 

akpal2

Well-Known Member
i don't think all progress is lost. On the contrary the gains amassed over a year will stick and you will improve really quickly if you leave PMO Hard Mode. and I mean really hard mode which means no fantasy, no porn, no images, even not dwelling on any sexual thoughts that come into your mind. Try this for a month, and see your boner go through the roof (hopefully).

And one other thing that I have noticed from personal experience is that you're never really "cured". Whenever you lapse back a little it shows up in the cotton boner.
 

bbkenpo

Member
akpal2 said:
i don't think all progress is lost. On the contrary the gains amassed over a year will stick and you will improve really quickly if you leave PMO Hard Mode. and I mean really hard mode which means no fantasy, no porn, no images, even not dwelling on any sexual thoughts that come into your mind. Try this for a month, and see your boner go through the roof (hopefully).

And one other thing that I have noticed from personal experience is that you're never really "cured". Whenever you lapse back a little it shows up in the cotton boner.

OK so I am wondering how long it took you from when you started till you had your first climax without DE?

I have had DE for 4 years - thank god not for entire life - but it consumes me.  I cannot wait till my first time cumming from sex with my girlfriend.  I have no idea how long this will be.  I have no difficulty in getting or staying erect, just cumming.  Thanks
 

akpal2

Well-Known Member
bbkenpo said:
akpal2 said:
i don't think all progress is lost. On the contrary the gains amassed over a year will stick and you will improve really quickly if you leave PMO Hard Mode. and I mean really hard mode which means no fantasy, no porn, no images, even not dwelling on any sexual thoughts that come into your mind. Try this for a month, and see your boner go through the roof (hopefully).

And one other thing that I have noticed from personal experience is that you're never really "cured". Whenever you lapse back a little it shows up in the cotton boner.

OK so I am wondering how long it took you from when you started till you had your first climax without DE?

I have had DE for 4 years - thank god not for entire life - but it consumes me.  I cannot wait till my first time cumming from sex with my girlfriend.  I have no idea how long this will be.  I have no difficulty in getting or staying erect, just cumming.  Thanks

Took me a month actually. Then I ran into other problems. My problem hasn't been DE. It has been PE at times.
 

bbkenpo

Member
So in one month you were able to cum normally with a woman?  I am going insane waiting for this to happen with my GF.  It has only been one week.
 

YoungFire

Member
Took me 5 days, but my brain's fucked. I'll tell you why.

Abstained for 5 days, came with a girl. Relapsed, had sex, took longer but still came.  Didn't relapse, had sex, came easily. Relapsed... Relapsed, had sex couldn't cum, abstained, had sex, couldn't cum, relapsed. Had sex couldn't come.


I think that's literally messed my brain up. So I'm going hard mode for a month at least and I'm certain everything could clear up. It's been about a week or over now, had sex last night still
Couldn't cum. Sensitivity in my penis isn't at its best but I can sense it returning..

Stick at it. Also don't what I did and have sex with a freaky girl who does everything they do in porn, trust me (I found one). It doesn't help your brain it just gives you the exact same stimuli that porn gives you, it's like real life porn. Only found this out a few days ago. Find a real girl and have realistic expectations to what a girl really likes then rewire your brain for good.


Porn's blocked at home, porn blocked at work, porn blocked on my phone I literally have absolutely NO access to it. Do that for a month, discipline yourself then take off all the filters. You keep the filters on and rely on it to stop you other than your own will power? Once the filters Come off you better pray to god you're strong enough to resist, use filters to
Help you with the first step, then sieze control of your mind and never go back.
 

Camouflage

Active Member
bbkenpo said:
OK so I am wondering how long it took you from when you started till you had your first climax without DE?

I have had DE for 4 years - thank god not for entire life - but it consumes me.  I cannot wait till my first time cumming from sex with my girlfriend.  I have no idea how long this will be.  I have no difficulty in getting or staying erect, just cumming.  Thanks

OP here, I will give some background to my situation. A year ago I dated a girl for about 4 months. During this time we had sex about 20 times without a single climax for me! Like you, I never had ED, but DE was enough to put tremendous pressure on our relationship! After quitting masturbation for about a month, I actually managed to orgasm with her. But it was always uncertain... Sometimes I could cum but usually not. We broke up, but my DE problem persisted to the next relationships as well. It has caused several promising relationships to fail.

But multiple streaks of no MO (and naturally no P) has slowly helped me during the past year! My longest streak was 79 days. To answer your question, it took about a month of no MO before I saw results. And it was a gradual process, not a sudden miracle. You should be patient and aim for 90 days of no MO.

Currently I have been dating a girl for a couple of months. We have had a lot of sex, and I would say I manage to orgasm 90% of the "1st rounds" (i.e. the first intercourse of the evening together). If we go for round 2, my success rate drops to about 30%. I am still not happy, but at least things have improved from the situation I had a year ago!

Thankfully, my recent relapse didn't destroy all of my progress, because I have had sex twice with my gf this week, and I managed to cum both times. However, it took longer than usual, I'm not sure if it is related to my relapse or not...

Wish you all the best in your journey!
 

bbkenpo

Member
Wow great stories guys.  It is so encouraging I can't tell you.  Since I cum 0% of the time right now, the thought of even cumming once is something I won't believe till I see it.  Thanks again!
 

akpal2

Well-Known Member
bbkenpo said:
So in one month you were able to cum normally with a woman?  I am going insane waiting for this to happen with my GF.  It has only been one week.

I must add that this was my 2nd reboot. My first attempt was some 60 plus days before I relapsed for about a month and a half. But yeah, the progress with hard mode has been pretty decent so far.
 

bbkenpo

Member
Success!!! First time cumming in so long! I can?t even believe I am writing this, I feel like a miracle has taken place.  It has been 10 days since starting no PMO.  I have read story after story of success from DE and always knew I could do it but of course still questioned if it would ever happen to me. 

Last night with my new GF while having regular sex I had the most amazing mind-blowing orgasm ever. It was from penetration in doggie position.  Thank you to everyone thank you for all of your stories and assistance. 

Of course I have no idea what happens next with O but I know one thing for sure, no P and no M.  She was as happy as I was because she shared in the experience.  I don?t feel like a sexual loser anymore or someone that just has to ?go with it? and accept it.  I know now that I AM capable of being normal.
 

akpal2

Well-Known Member
bbkenpo said:
Success!!! First time cumming in so long! I can?t even believe I am writing this, I feel like a miracle has taken place.  It has been 10 days since starting no PMO.  I have read story after story of success from DE and always knew I could do it but of course still questioned if it would ever happen to me. 

Last night with my new GF while having regular sex I had the most amazing mind-blowing orgasm ever. It was from penetration in doggie position.  Thank you to everyone thank you for all of your stories and assistance. 

Of course I have no idea what happens next with O but I know one thing for sure, no P and no M.  She was as happy as I was because she shared in the experience.  I don?t feel like a sexual loser anymore or someone that just has to ?go with it? and accept it.  I know now that I AM capable of being normal.

congratulations dude

btw, beware of the chaser effect. Look it up now
 

bbkenpo

Member
Thank you so much!!! I just looked up the Chaser Effect.  So far have not experienced it except in a very small way which was easy to defend against.  The emotional pain I have experienced from 4 years of DE has made it SO much easier to never look at P again, ever and not to M.

I enjoy the sharing of O with a partner so much that it is all I ever want again.  I do not want to use my hand again ever!  Thank you for the tips.
 

Camouflage

Active Member
bbkenpo said:
Success!!! First time cumming in so long! I can?t even believe I am writing this, I feel like a miracle has taken place.  It has been 10 days since starting no PMO.  I have read story after story of success from DE and always knew I could do it but of course still questioned if it would ever happen to me. 

Last night with my new GF while having regular sex I had the most amazing mind-blowing orgasm ever. It was from penetration in doggie position.  Thank you to everyone thank you for all of your stories and assistance. 

Of course I have no idea what happens next with O but I know one thing for sure, no P and no M.  She was as happy as I was because she shared in the experience.  I don?t feel like a sexual loser anymore or someone that just has to ?go with it? and accept it.  I know now that I AM capable of being normal.

That's awesome dude! :) Congratulations! I remember when I first stumbled on this website, I didn't believe that nofap would help with a delayed ejaculation. But it does doesn't it? :)

Just by a coincidence I am also on day 10 of my current no PMO streak. Just yesterday I had sex with my gf and managed to orgasm in a decent amount of time. That makes it 3 out of 3 this week! Not bad! :) So, it seems that I have recovered fairly quickly from my recent relapse to P. But I am still not 100% happy because my success rate on the "2nd rounds" is so poor (I didn't even try them this week because I was happy to cum even once). I am also still anxious about having sex, because I am afraid of a failure. I will continue my no M streak for sure.
 

YoungFire

Member
Camouflage said:
bbkenpo said:
OK so I am wondering how long it took you from when you started till you had your first climax without DE?

I have had DE for 4 years - thank god not for entire life - but it consumes me.  I cannot wait till my first time cumming from sex with my girlfriend.  I have no idea how long this will be.  I have no difficulty in getting or staying erect, just cumming.  Thanks

OP here, I will give some background to my situation. A year ago I dated a girl for about 4 months. During this time we had sex about 20 times without a single climax for me! Like you, I never had ED, but DE was enough to put tremendous pressure on our relationship! After quitting masturbation for about a month, I actually managed to orgasm with her. But it was always uncertain... Sometimes I could cum but usually not. We broke up, but my DE problem persisted to the next relationships as well. It has caused several promising relationships to fail.

But multiple streaks of no MO (and naturally no P) has slowly helped me during the past year! My longest streak was 79 days. To answer your question, it took about a month of no MO before I saw results. And it was a gradual process, not a sudden miracle. You should be patient and aim for 90 days of no MO.

Currently I have been dating a girl for a couple of months. We have had a lot of sex, and I would say I manage to orgasm 90% of the "1st rounds" (i.e. the first intercourse of the evening together). If we go for round 2, my success rate drops to about 30%. I am still not happy, but at least things have improved from the situation I had a year ago!

Thankfully, my recent relapse didn't destroy all of my progress, because I have had sex twice with my gf this week, and I managed to cum both times. However, it took longer than usual, I'm not sure if it is related to my relapse or not...

Wish you all the best in your journey!

this couldn't be any more accurate to what i'm going through. 100% EXACTLY like me. when i dont MO i can cum in a decent time, if i relapse it either takes me a lot longer or i dont. but i've gone on good streaks before but i can only go 1 round with ejaculating, the next doesn't happen at all.


but if we stick at it i'm sure we'll be okay
 

Camouflage

Active Member
Just to update my situation, I had sex again yesterday with my gf and I managed to orgasm again. That makes it 4 out of 4 this week. Not too bad for a guy who couldn't climax at all during sex a year ago!

But I am still hoping to shorten my refraction period and gain the ability to orgasm also on consequtive rounds of intercourse. Hopefully more nofap will help me to achieve this.

My relapse did set me back a bit, but fortunately I was able to recover pretty fast. I just needed to stop M and P immediately.
 

bbkenpo

Member
So I was able to O with my GF two times in a row - one each night.  But then the past 1.5 days we had sex over and over and I was not able to.  She tried BJ and HJ and always so close.

I think I was going insane and asked her to try and get me off.  So she did HJ and BJ and finally I just M to help it along and finally O.  But I am really sad is this is a relapse.  Yes no P, no P ever again but I did use my hands, I felt I had to but it is still a failure.

Right now my unit is so sore from use I can't imagine using it again.  I am now going to re-set my counter but knowing that I did O twice!!!
 

Devo22

Member
You should not be ejaculating especially during reboot. You should be cultivating your male energy (semen) like cultures have been teaching for thousands of years. We dont have unlimited supply of semen, that is why prostate cancer is on the rise, TOO MUCH EJACULATING.

Please read "cultivating male energy" by mantak chia

please visit www.reuniting.info

Learn about non-ejaculatory sex. Become a god in the bedroom by completely rebooting hard mode followed by non ejaculatory sex leading to hours of amazing sex while upping your energy instead of feeling post ejaculatory grogginess, brain fog, tiredness, craving carbohydrates....
 

bbkenpo

Member
Devo22 said:
You should not be ejaculating especially during reboot. You should be cultivating your male energy (semen) like cultures have been teaching for thousands of years. We dont have unlimited supply of semen, that is why prostate cancer is on the rise, TOO MUCH EJACULATING.

Please read "cultivating male energy" by mantak chia

please visit www.reuniting.info

Learn about non-ejaculatory sex. Become a god in the bedroom by completely rebooting hard mode followed by non ejaculatory sex leading to hours of amazing sex while upping your energy instead of feeling post ejaculatory grogginess, brain fog, tiredness, craving carbohydrates....

Thanks so much but I don't think I had that type of self-control.  I need to cum and will stay off M and P again.  That is what worked and that is where I will focus.  I 1000% enjoy orgasms with my GF.
 

Devo22

Member
bbkenpo said:
Devo22 said:
You should not be ejaculating especially during reboot. You should be cultivating your male energy (semen) like cultures have been teaching for thousands of years. We dont have unlimited supply of semen, that is why prostate cancer is on the rise, TOO MUCH EJACULATING.

Please read "cultivating male energy" by mantak chia

please visit www.reuniting.info

Learn about non-ejaculatory sex. Become a god in the bedroom by completely rebooting hard mode followed by non ejaculatory sex leading to hours of amazing sex while upping your energy instead of feeling post ejaculatory grogginess, brain fog, tiredness, craving carbohydrates....

Thanks so much but I don't think I had that type of self-control.  I need to cum and will stay off M and P again.  That is what worked and that is where I will focus.  I 1000% enjoy orgasms with my GF.

Orgasms and ejaculation are two different things. You can have MULTIPLE orgasms without ejaculating. You can only get there by rebooting HARDMODE for a set amount of time. I will make a post about this when I get the chance.
 

bbkenpo

Member
Success again! I almost can?t believe it.  (have had DE for 4 years since my divorce) I had an orgasm with my GF last night during sex.  It was mind-blowing and unexpected.  The other day we had sex and I was just tired and didn?t push it.  Then last night at her house we made love after I gave her a backrub.  I was getting close then sort of stopped.  Then tried again in missionary.  I thought I was getting close but still have a bit of a difficulty really knowing.  But then it seemed like I was getting really close and then pop!

Oh my god, it was heaven.  I have been putting creams on my unit for a few days to get sensitivity back and of course have not looked at P for about 2.5 weeks and as you can see had to reboot after M.

But now that is 3 times and I am starting to really get my confidence back.  Last night was the easiest time ever, was in a new sex position (was a bit concerned the first 2 times were both doggy style and started to think I would ?need? that position).

This makes me think that having an O for the first time ever from a HJ and a BJ may be just around the corner.  That will be insane.  Thank you for all of your support and for showing me the way!
 
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