Almost two year reboot - still no morning wood and no strong libido. Thoughts?

Mr-NoFap

Member
As the title says I've been rebooting since April 2013 and have seen some progress but not anywhere near as much as I hoped.
I have done a bit of rewiring more than a year ago when I was dating a girl for four months. The sex was better than it had been in years but I needed a break of several days to get my groove back. Haven't had a chance to test how sex is for almost a year so don't know where I stand now. I still don't have morning wood and I went into a deep flatline after trying to awaken my libido in January through masturbation after a 7 month tour of abstinence from sex and mo. All my blood tests have been fine and the urologist said I was fine as well.
Any thoughts? Is it still PIED? Am I just FUBAR? Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Needless to say I'm getting more and more worried that it's not PIED but something else but I don't know what that could be. Thank you.
Btw. Libido is too low to be considered normal non-porn libido and I used to have mw like a monster.
 
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uxie92

Guest
It seems like there is no way to say its still PIED related... Too many months in hard mode.. I think about two posibilities:
1) You need a girl to test with right now. The libido that you can appreciate being alone is nothing compared to a real girl that you can feel. This is truly a fact to take in mind.Perhaps only after a couple of tries you discover you re healed and your responses are also good.
2) As you said it could be no PIED related. In this case u shoult to be sure about this and visit a specialist.

If you are still worried about whats happening you can consider to take some natural aphrodisiac. There are so many things that works so far. Watermelon (peel included, no joke lol), broccoli, ginger...

Greetings.
 
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OSS

Guest
It's not true that it might not be PIED related. There are a few cases of guys taking about this long to start seeing positive results

I do agree it's worth getting other things checked out and look into it for yourself. IE. When your doctors tell you your blood tests are fine ask them for print outs of specific numbers and research those numbers yourself for eg. a doctor may say your thyroid is fine, where in actuality it may be borderline ok but still low enough to cause problems for you... Reference ranges =/= good, average nor sometimes even "good enough" for yourr physiology. Investigate this with caution however peoples anecdotes can get pretty exaggerated when talking about this stuff.

Reboot related I'd say keep trucking away at no p/m and focus on getting a frequent rewiring partner and don'tt be afraid to O with your partner unless it has negative side effects
 

Mr-NoFap

Member
Thank you for your input.
I do believe that I can fit into some kind of PIED scale but I just think that I should at least have my morning wood back by now and the fact that I get right into a flatline if I O more than once a week at this point in my reboot seems ridiculous and is the cause of my concern.
I have a printout of my numbers and prolactin and testosterone numbers are fine. My TSH level is also smack in the middle of the scale but I have been unable to get t4 and t3 numbers as they don't test for those when TSH is where it should be. I don't really know what else if could be if it's not PIED or a thyroid problem. I've read about prostatitis but my penis doesn't bleed and I'm not sure it would effect my libido like this. I've also read about a chlamydia infected prostate and thought about that as I have had chlamydia before but the test I had taken after my treatment said I was fine.
Basically everything I get tested for comes back fine so what the HELL can this be if it's not PIED? All input is welcome because I am at my wits end here.
I don't really see how rewiring could bring back morning wood instead of pure abstinence so that's why I don't think its PIED. But as I said any input is more than welcome.
Thank you.
 

Pr3c1se

Well-Known Member
I think perhaps you've found a porn substitute and simply "think" it's not porn.  I feel 2 years is longer than I've ever heard a reboot taking.  If a reboot is indeed what you need, you need to re-evaluate what you're doing in your life.  Otherwise, perhaps there is another issue besides the reboot.
 

Beachy

Member
I tend to agree with a few of the guys here, I think it's unlikely to be PIED related anymore unless you've found a porn substitute such as Facebook hotties. Failing that perhaps it's time to try again.

Morning wood is not a great test as it may be happening while you sleep and you wouldn't know.

I stopped porn 14 months ago and am only seeing results now but found I had to jump start my libido. For me this involved a trick I learnt from yourbrainonporn which is light caressing of myself in the shower. I sometimes got hard, sometimes didn't but didn't really care about the result, only the sensations, which is the whole point. Then tried masturbation once and given that worked and I couldn't do that before I'd rebooted I knew I'd improved. Then tried some fantasy and found myself just fantasising about real situations as opposed to porn stuff. Then onto a real girl, who I'm rewiring with now. That works out sometimes and doesn't on other occasions but she's cool with that as we often go for many hours so lots of attention for her.

I guess my long winded point is try some stuff to build up your libido again. I'd say after this amount of time you're most likely good to go PIED wise, it's more likely a mind thing. I also disagree with some of the guys on this site about erection meds. Take a small dose once or twice to remember how good sex is then drop them as you most likely won't need them after that. Works for some but others are dead against it so you'll need to make your own mind up on that one.

It's hard to know whether you're better so perhaps time to give it a shot and see how you go.

Good luck.
 

Mr-NoFap

Member
Thank you all for your input. As I mentioned I am also myself doubting if it is indeed PIED or something else but since all other tests have come back fine, I was just wondering what that something else could be. I've scheduled a time with my gp yet again in two weeks so if anybody has any ideas as to what else I could get tested for besides testosterone and TSH I would really appreciate it. What else can lower libido significantly and make you lose your morning wood. All ideas are welcome. Thanks in advance.
 
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OSS

Guest
Mr-NoFap said:
Thank you for your input.
I do believe that I can fit into some kind of PIED scale but I just think that I should at least have my morning wood back by now and the fact that I get right into a flatline if I O more than once a week at this point in my reboot seems ridiculous and is the cause of my concern.
I have a printout of my numbers and prolactin and testosterone numbers are fine. My TSH level is also smack in the middle of the scale but I have been unable to get t4 and t3 numbers as they don't test for those when TSH is where it should be. I don't really know what else if could be if it's not PIED or a thyroid problem. I've read about prostatitis but my penis doesn't bleed and I'm not sure it would effect my libido like this. I've also read about a chlamydia infected prostate and thought about that as I have had chlamydia before but the test I had taken after my treatment said I was fine.
Basically everything I get tested for comes back fine so what the HELL can this be if it's not PIED? All input is welcome because I am at my wits end here.
I don't really see how rewiring could bring back morning wood instead of pure abstinence so that's why I don't think its PIED. But as I said any input is more than welcome.
Thank you.
If you have no libido... I think you could be in a "limbo" state, where your porn pathways have withered, your real women pathways never grew due to porn use and now your brain has no reason to be horny. I'm not sure if this could effect MW. Disclaimer: I have no idea if that's even a possibility but if it is rewiring would be the way to fix it, lots of frequent rewiring.

If you do have a libido I suggest you investigate pelvic floor problems.. Some good information on pegym about reverse kegels. A tight pelvic floor can cause ED but I'm guessing the urologist checked that.
 

Mr-NoFap

Member
Thank you. It's the same thought I've been having that maybe rewiring and lots of it is what's needed. I just don't see how that could affect morning wood. Anyways, until I gey a chance at rewiring I'll just have to keep going to the doctor and be told that I'm fine while he thinks I'm some sort of hypochondriac weirdo.
Thank you all.
 

Gambit123

Active Member
I am no expert but I have seen it debated on these sites whether rewiring is in fact a necessary component to regaining erectile health. Some say that only the reboot is necessary and rewiring will speed it up; others say you absolutely need to rewire as the second phase of the process to get your erections back to normal. I am no expert but thought I would offer you some info from what I have read. Not sure if there is any correlation, but I had a rewiring partner at the beginning of my reboot and saw some good progress. the last several months, no rewiring partner, slower progress. But who knows, the entire process is non-linear and can take well over a year for some (I am 4 months in). stay strong.
 
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